Apologies. I mis-credited the originator of the measuring idea. Thank you *Roman* for your excellent question.
: o), Myrle On Thu, Jul 4, 2019 at 11:53 AM Myrle Krantz <[email protected]> wrote: > Hey Ross, > > You've asked a very important question. Let me take it on, a little bit > in the style of a balanced score-card. To measure impact, we first have to > be in agreement about which impact we want to achieve. Going all the way > back to first principles to justify this: > > What is the mission of the foundation? "To produce open source software > for the public good." > What is the mission of D&I? "To welcome people from diverse backgrounds, > and bring them into the process of producing open source software for the > public good." > What is the purpose of this initiative? > * "To explicitly express our welcome to people from diverse backgrounds > via an organization that has good relationships in these communities." > (Welcoming) > * "To better understand the obstacles and bright spots in our > communities, and to document and share that information." (Understanding) > > So how do we measure impact for these two items? > * For Welcoming, we'll find it difficult to narrow down cause and effect > (as is always the case in marketing efforts). But we can still measure > trends. To do this we will be working on and administering a survey at > regular intervals. But that is a separate effort with its own, already > approved budget. While formulating that survey, we should keep in mind how > our goals connect to the mission of our Foundation. > * For Understanding, we will be producing documentation. One measure is: > "does the documentation exist, was it read by the projects, and were they > able to derive value from it?" We can also ask that projects give us > feedback about whether or not they found the process helpful. This > information will help us when it comes time to decide if we want to go more > rounds with Outreachy in the future. > > Best Regards, > Myrle > > > On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 8:39 PM Ross Gardler > <[email protected]> wrote: > >> +1 for measuring impact, given that the goal is to learn I had assumed it >> was there by default. Wouldn't hurt to make it explicit. >> >> That said. This is about people funding ASF interns through Outreachy NOT >> through ASF. There is no "I" for the ASF, in this proposal, other than >> volunteer energy which is not under the boards control. >> >> If a future request asks for an ASF "I" having data would indeed be >> useful. >> >> Roas >> >> >> >> Get Outlook for Android<https://aka.ms/ghei36> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Roman Shaposhnik <[email protected]> >> Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2019 11:33:50 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Notify the board that D&I intends to coordinate an >> Outreachy intern program >> >> On Tue, Jul 2, 2019 at 11:59 PM Myrle Krantz <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > Based on the preceding discussion, I'm stripping the first sentence out >> of >> > the background section. The notice is confusing though if I strip every >> > mention of funding, so I've left some bits in there. The latest >> version is >> > below. >> > >> > I believe the discussion is petering out. I'm going to give it another >> day >> > and, if nothing happens, I'll move on to the next step. >> > >> > Best, >> > Myrle >> > >> > ----------------- >> > Subject: [NOTICE] D&I intends to coordinate an Outreachy intern program. >> > >> > Background: D&I wishes to perform UX research on the experience of >> members >> > of underrepresented groups as they get started with our communities. >> > Internships via Outreachy provide us with an excellent opportunity to >> do so. >> > >> > A sponsor has offered to provide stipends via Outreachy which will >> cover 3 >> > interns. D&I plans to provide the following support: >> > >> > * Advertise this opportunity to projects and seek mentors & proposals. >> > * Manage the project submission process to Outreachy, including >> filtering >> > out unsuitable project proposals, and, if necessary, making a final >> > selection of intern-project pairs. >> > * Ask interns for feedback on their experiences at various times >> throughout >> > the internship. >> > * Provide appropriate and useful feedback to the Foundation and to the >> > projects about opportunities to improve how welcoming we are, and what >> we >> > can improve on. >> > * Use this as an opportunity to increase awareness and acceptance of the >> > ASF in communities which we are currently not reaching as well as we >> would >> > like. >> > >> > If Outreachy receives funding for more than 3 interns for the ASF, we >> will >> > facilitate the placement of such additional interns with Apache >> projects, >> > but we plan to keep the initial rounds of this project relatively small >> for >> > learning purposes. >> > >> > ----------------- >> > The road ahead on this proposal is as follows (** indicates where we are >> > now): >> > * Start a [DISCUSS] thread. >> > ** Allow the discussion to run as long as *new* points are being made. >> > * Start a [VOTE] thread to run for 72 hours. >> > * Submit a [NOTICE] to the board. >> > * Wait 72 hours for potential board objections. >> > * Get to work. >> >> This is a really good draft, but I have to ask: is this committee >> planning to put >> some kind of reasonable metrics in place to evaluate the ROI of this >> effort? >> >> This is very similar to tough questions that Myrle was asking around ROI >> on >> spending money for anniversary promotions. In both cases we all know in >> our >> gut that these are probably good investments and yet unless you can >> measure >> it you can't improve it also applies. >> >> Can something tangible be added to the draft so that we don't have to go >> through >> the same set of discussions we went through with anniversary >> promotions expenditure? >> >> Thanks, >> Roman. >> >
