Hi folks, just a note to let you know I have input for metrics and operation, I am still reading all the thread and parsing comments.
On Fri, Jul 5, 2019, 6:44 AM Myrle Krantz <[email protected]> wrote: > Hey Kevin, > > Remember this is a notification to the board. The level of specificity you > are proposing I add goes well beyond what the board requires from other > areas; even for budget requests. I will not hold up this item until that > level of detail is available. > > We will need to work out these details in order to implement this program, > but that will take time, and it's only fair to the board and the volunteers > doing the work to let them know that we are working on it, and give them > the opportunity to object, before we head off "into the weeds" so to speak. > > However, if you want to create an area in confluence or Jira and start > breaking down the tasks in the manner you intimate in your feedback here, > that would really help us move forward on this. > > Best, > Myrle > > On Fri, Jul 5, 2019 at 1:07 PM Kevin A. McGrail <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > On 7/5/2019 5:21 AM, Myrle Krantz wrote: > > > Alright, new version. With an added section on measuring. > > > > I see some issues with the lack of specificity. You will set things up > > for success by adding this specificity on deliverables. It will set > > expectations and help answer hard questions that might otherwise go > > unnoticed. > > > > #1: how specifically will you advertise this? It is extremely difficult > > to get the word spread on things within the ASF and there are concerns > > constantly with overwhelming people using bulk lists. Please discuss > > how you envision this happening because I see this as a pretty big > hurdle: > > > > * Advertise this opportunity to projects and seek mentors & proposals. > > > > > > #2: What tool will we use for the feedback? Email? Surveys? Please > > specify the number of times and the frequency or a minimum such as no > less > > than 3x's during the program. > > > > * Ask interns for feedback on their experiences at various times > throughout > > the internship. > > > > > > #3: Define regular intervals, please. It's far too vague. > > * In a seperate effort we will be working on and administering a survey > at > > regular intervals. > > > > regards, > > KAM > > > > > > > > Best, > > > Myrle > > > > > > ----------------- > > > Subject: [NOTICE] D&I intends to coordinate an Outreachy intern > program. > > > > > > Background: D&I wishes to perform UX research on the experience of > > members > > > of underrepresented groups as they get started with our communities. > > > Internships via Outreachy provide us with an excellent opportunity to > do > > so. > > > > > > A sponsor has offered to provide stipends via Outreachy which will > cover > > 3 > > > interns. D&I plans to provide the following support: > > > > > > * Advertise this opportunity to projects and seek mentors & proposals. > > > * Manage the project submission process to Outreachy, including > filtering > > > out unsuitable project proposals, and, if necessary, making a final > > > selection of intern-project pairs. > > > * Ask interns for feedback on their experiences at various times > > throughout > > > the internship. > > > * Provide appropriate and useful feedback to the Foundation and to the > > > projects about opportunities to improve how welcoming we are, and what > we > > > can improve on. > > > * Use this as an opportunity to increase awareness and acceptance of > the > > > ASF in communities which we are currently not reaching as well as we > > would > > > like. > > > > > > If Outreachy receives funding for more than 3 interns for the ASF, we > > will > > > facilitate the placement of such additional interns with Apache > projects, > > > but we plan to keep the initial rounds of this project relatively small > > for > > > learning purposes. > > > > > > We intend to measure the success of this program in the following ways: > > > * In a seperate effort we will be working on and administering a survey > > at > > > regular intervals. > > > * We will ask participating projects to provide feedback on the program > > and > > > on our resulting documentation. > > > > > > ----------------- > > > The road ahead on this proposal is as follows (** indicates where we > are > > > now): > > > * Start a [DISCUSS] thread. > > > ** Allow the discussion to run as long as *new* points are being made. > > > * Start a [VOTE] thread to run for 72 hours. > > > * Submit a [NOTICE] to the board. > > > * Wait 72 hours for potential board objections. > > > * Get to work. > > > > > > On Fri, Jul 5, 2019 at 10:33 AM Naomi S <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > >> On Fri, 5 Jul 2019 at 05:48, Roman Shaposhnik <[email protected]> > > >> wrote: > > >> > > >>> This is just a from-a-peanut-gallery-wish-list (feel free to ignore), > > >>> but I'd really love to see > > >>> us partner with at least a few orgs like Outreachy simply to be able > to > > >>> get more > > >>> diverse set of opinions on how to approach D&I issue at ASF. > > >>> > > >> don't want to get ahead of ourselves. but in general, +1 > > >> > > >> a plurality of approaches, organizations, and efforts is important > > because > > >> there are so many intersecting issues, perspectives, and needs > > >> > > > > -- > > Kevin A. McGrail > > Member, Apache Software Foundation > > Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project > > https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171 > > > > >
