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On 2019-07-15 11:48 a.m., Joan Touzet wrote:
Gris, did we confirm with Sage Sharp that 3 people sharing the
Coordinator role is OK? The text on the website implies a single person.
To Ross's point, we have 3 people who've agreed to help, and have met
with the Chair's approval, so I think this meets his statement. The role
VP. Not Chair. This is not a PMC.
Not confusion on my part - I had just been setting up a vote for
confirming the Chair on a project PMC mailing list, and had Chairs on
the brain.
-Joan "'Two Chairs'" Touzet
of the coordinator is very well laid out as a facilitation role only on
Outreachy's website.
+1 with either approach to clarify the fundraising aspect, to avoid
confusion and lengthy, flame-fest emails ;)
-Joan "enough is enough" Touzet
On 2019-07-15 3:37, Ross Gardler wrote:
+1 (is prefer to remove fundraising entirely in order to allow unhindered
progress, but Sam's attempt to be explicit about the scope of fundraising
efforts is ok by me)
With respect to "assigning" individuals to roles: fine if someone wants the job
let them do it. It's the Apache Way to NOT have appointed leaders. The goal is to let
whoever is doing the work lead the work. Formally assigning people can have the
disadvantage of giving the impression that others are not entitled to help. On the other
hand when things are time based having someone to make decisions can be good.
So, +1 to assign anyone willing to do the work, but let's ensure they consider
their primary responsibility is to help others contribute to the effort. Their
secondary role is to ensure we hit deadlines.
Ross
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From: Craig Russell <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2019 3:55:43 AM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Volunteer Needed] Outreachy Coordinator for the ASF
My only concern with the whole Outreachy effort is the implied coordination with
fundraising. At least for the time being, we should simply say that fundraising is
out of scope for D&I. No effort should be made to do anything but understand
the current situation with funding.
That said, having the three individuals sharing the coordination role is a
great step forward.
Craig
On Jul 14, 2019, at 11:53 AM, Griselda Cuevas <[email protected]> wrote:
Just to for clarification.
I'd like to hear your feedback on assigning Matt, Katia and Awasum as
Outreachy coordinators for the ASF. I'd like to make this official after
72h from this email.
On Sat, Jul 13, 2019, 10:16 AM Matt Sicker <[email protected]> wrote:
Working with Fundraising makes incredible sense for future work so we can
get more sponsors. The first round (Winter 2019) sounds funded already, so
any work done with Fundraising would be to target the Summer 2020 Outreachy
round.
On Sat, Jul 13, 2019 at 12:04, Griselda Cuevas <[email protected]>
wrote:
Agreed. Thanks Sam & Ross.
On Sat, Jul 13, 2019, 12:15 AM Ross Gardler
<[email protected]> wrote:
Yes.
As Sam neatly highlights in his clarification it is critical to draw
accurate boundaries when pushing back against community concerns. Small
reversible steps is a phrase we often use, I guess we should make it
"Small
and clearly defined reversible steps".
Ross
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From: Sam Ruby <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2019 5:36:08 AM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Volunteer Needed] Outreachy Coordinator for the ASF
On Fri, Jul 12, 2019 at 7:31 PM Ross Gardler
<[email protected]> wrote:
I'm all for the proposal but...
Why would this committee be doing fundraising? Nothing in the
proposal
we currently have consensus around requires fundraising. There is a
reason
for this. Furthermore, we have a fundraising committee charged with
fundraising activities should it ever be approved that the ASF raises
funds
for Outreachy.
Would the following be acceptable?
In most organizations that Outreachy deals with, the organization
itself sponsors Outreachy's efforts. At the moment, the ASF is not
such an organization, and may never be.
Instead we are currently relying on generous sponsor(s), and from time
to time may need to work directly with them. Any such work will need
to be coordinated by out fundraising committee which is largely
composed of volunteers. Fundraising already works closely with
Marketing and Publicity, Conferences, and Virtual Inc.
The Outreachy coordinators can decide amongst themselves to what
extent it makes sense to work with fundraising and which of them (if
any) will liaise with the fundraising committee.
Ross
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