Gris, did we confirm with Sage Sharp that 3 people sharing the Coordinator role is OK? The text on the website implies a single person.
To Ross's point, we have 3 people who've agreed to help, and have met with the Chair's approval, so I think this meets his statement. The role of the coordinator is very well laid out as a facilitation role only on Outreachy's website. +1 with either approach to clarify the fundraising aspect, to avoid confusion and lengthy, flame-fest emails ;) -Joan "enough is enough" Touzet On 2019-07-15 3:37, Ross Gardler wrote: > +1 (is prefer to remove fundraising entirely in order to allow unhindered > progress, but Sam's attempt to be explicit about the scope of fundraising > efforts is ok by me) > > With respect to "assigning" individuals to roles: fine if someone wants the > job let them do it. It's the Apache Way to NOT have appointed leaders. The > goal is to let whoever is doing the work lead the work. Formally assigning > people can have the disadvantage of giving the impression that others are not > entitled to help. On the other hand when things are time based having someone > to make decisions can be good. > > So, +1 to assign anyone willing to do the work, but let's ensure they > consider their primary responsibility is to help others contribute to the > effort. Their secondary role is to ensure we hit deadlines. > > Ross > > --- > > Sent from my phone, likely while waking down the stars and having a > conversation. Sorry about my carelessness, I blame the machines. > > ________________________________ > From: Craig Russell <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, July 15, 2019 3:55:43 AM > To: [email protected] <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Volunteer Needed] Outreachy Coordinator for the ASF > > My only concern with the whole Outreachy effort is the implied coordination > with fundraising. At least for the time being, we should simply say that > fundraising is out of scope for D&I. No effort should be made to do anything > but understand the current situation with funding. > > That said, having the three individuals sharing the coordination role is a > great step forward. > > Craig > > >> On Jul 14, 2019, at 11:53 AM, Griselda Cuevas <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> Just to for clarification. >> >> I'd like to hear your feedback on assigning Matt, Katia and Awasum as >> Outreachy coordinators for the ASF. I'd like to make this official after >> 72h from this email. >> >> On Sat, Jul 13, 2019, 10:16 AM Matt Sicker <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Working with Fundraising makes incredible sense for future work so we can >>> get more sponsors. The first round (Winter 2019) sounds funded already, so >>> any work done with Fundraising would be to target the Summer 2020 Outreachy >>> round. >>> >>> On Sat, Jul 13, 2019 at 12:04, Griselda Cuevas <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Agreed. Thanks Sam & Ross. >>>> >>>> On Sat, Jul 13, 2019, 12:15 AM Ross Gardler >>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Yes. >>>>> >>>>> As Sam neatly highlights in his clarification it is critical to draw >>>>> accurate boundaries when pushing back against community concerns. Small >>>>> reversible steps is a phrase we often use, I guess we should make it >>>> "Small >>>>> and clearly defined reversible steps". >>>>> >>>>> Ross >>>>> >>>>> --- >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my phone, likely while waking down the stars and having a >>>>> conversation. Sorry about my carelessness, I blame the machines. >>>>> >>>>> ________________________________ >>>>> From: Sam Ruby <[email protected]> >>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2019 5:36:08 AM >>>>> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> >>>>> Subject: Re: [Volunteer Needed] Outreachy Coordinator for the ASF >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Jul 12, 2019 at 7:31 PM Ross Gardler >>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm all for the proposal but... >>>>>> >>>>>> Why would this committee be doing fundraising? Nothing in the >>> proposal >>>>> we currently have consensus around requires fundraising. There is a >>>> reason >>>>> for this. Furthermore, we have a fundraising committee charged with >>>>> fundraising activities should it ever be approved that the ASF raises >>>> funds >>>>> for Outreachy. >>>>> >>>>> Would the following be acceptable? >>>>> >>>>> In most organizations that Outreachy deals with, the organization >>>>> itself sponsors Outreachy's efforts. At the moment, the ASF is not >>>>> such an organization, and may never be. >>>>> >>>>> Instead we are currently relying on generous sponsor(s), and from time >>>>> to time may need to work directly with them. Any such work will need >>>>> to be coordinated by out fundraising committee which is largely >>>>> composed of volunteers. Fundraising already works closely with >>>>> Marketing and Publicity, Conferences, and Virtual Inc. >>>>> >>>>> The Outreachy coordinators can decide amongst themselves to what >>>>> extent it makes sense to work with fundraising and which of them (if >>>>> any) will liaise with the fundraising committee. >>>>> >>>>>> Ross >>>>>> >>>>>> --- >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my phone, likely while waking down the stars and having a >>>>> conversation. Sorry about my carelessness, I blame the machines. >>>>> >>>>> - Sam Ruby >>>>> >>>> >>> -- >>> Matt Sicker <[email protected]> >>> > > Craig L Russell > [email protected] > >
