Hi everyone, Just confirming really excited and happy to volunteer to be a coordinator.
Cheers, Katia On Tue, Jul 16, 2019 at 9:53 PM Matt Sicker <[email protected]> wrote: > Now that this is ready, I'd like to volunteer to be a coordinator. > > > On Mon, 15 Jul 2019 at 18:51, Joan Touzet <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Whoops, made a mistake here: > > > > On 2019-07-15 11:48 a.m., Joan Touzet wrote: > > > Gris, did we confirm with Sage Sharp that 3 people sharing the > > > Coordinator role is OK? The text on the website implies a single > person. > > > > > > To Ross's point, we have 3 people who've agreed to help, and have met > > > with the Chair's approval, so I think this meets his statement. The > role > > > > VP. Not Chair. This is not a PMC. > > > > Not confusion on my part - I had just been setting up a vote for > > confirming the Chair on a project PMC mailing list, and had Chairs on > > the brain. > > > > -Joan "'Two Chairs'" Touzet > > > > > of the coordinator is very well laid out as a facilitation role only on > > > Outreachy's website. > > > > > > +1 with either approach to clarify the fundraising aspect, to avoid > > > confusion and lengthy, flame-fest emails ;) > > > > > > -Joan "enough is enough" Touzet > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2019-07-15 3:37, Ross Gardler wrote: > > >> +1 (is prefer to remove fundraising entirely in order to allow > unhindered progress, but Sam's attempt to be explicit about the scope of > fundraising efforts is ok by me) > > >> > > >> With respect to "assigning" individuals to roles: fine if someone > wants the job let them do it. It's the Apache Way to NOT have appointed > leaders. The goal is to let whoever is doing the work lead the work. > Formally assigning people can have the disadvantage of giving the > impression that others are not entitled to help. On the other hand when > things are time based having someone to make decisions can be good. > > >> > > >> So, +1 to assign anyone willing to do the work, but let's ensure they > consider their primary responsibility is to help others contribute to the > effort. Their secondary role is to ensure we hit deadlines. > > >> > > >> Ross > > >> > > >> --- > > >> > > >> Sent from my phone, likely while waking down the stars and having a > conversation. Sorry about my carelessness, I blame the machines. > > >> > > >> ________________________________ > > >> From: Craig Russell <[email protected]> > > >> Sent: Monday, July 15, 2019 3:55:43 AM > > >> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> > > >> Subject: Re: [Volunteer Needed] Outreachy Coordinator for the ASF > > >> > > >> My only concern with the whole Outreachy effort is the implied > coordination with fundraising. At least for the time being, we should > simply say that fundraising is out of scope for D&I. No effort should be > made to do anything but understand the current situation with funding. > > >> > > >> That said, having the three individuals sharing the coordination role > is a great step forward. > > >> > > >> Craig > > >> > > >> > > >>> On Jul 14, 2019, at 11:53 AM, Griselda Cuevas > <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>> > > >>> Just to for clarification. > > >>> > > >>> I'd like to hear your feedback on assigning Matt, Katia and Awasum as > > >>> Outreachy coordinators for the ASF. I'd like to make this official > after > > >>> 72h from this email. > > >>> > > >>> On Sat, Jul 13, 2019, 10:16 AM Matt Sicker <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>> > > >>>> Working with Fundraising makes incredible sense for future work so > we can > > >>>> get more sponsors. The first round (Winter 2019) sounds funded > already, so > > >>>> any work done with Fundraising would be to target the Summer 2020 > Outreachy > > >>>> round. > > >>>> > > >>>> On Sat, Jul 13, 2019 at 12:04, Griselda Cuevas > <[email protected]> > > >>>> wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>>> Agreed. Thanks Sam & Ross. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> On Sat, Jul 13, 2019, 12:15 AM Ross Gardler > > >>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>>>> > > >>>>>> Yes. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> As Sam neatly highlights in his clarification it is critical to > draw > > >>>>>> accurate boundaries when pushing back against community concerns. > Small > > >>>>>> reversible steps is a phrase we often use, I guess we should make > it > > >>>>> "Small > > >>>>>> and clearly defined reversible steps". > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Ross > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> --- > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Sent from my phone, likely while waking down the stars and having > a > > >>>>>> conversation. Sorry about my carelessness, I blame the machines. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> ________________________________ > > >>>>>> From: Sam Ruby <[email protected]> > > >>>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2019 5:36:08 AM > > >>>>>> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> > > >>>>>> Subject: Re: [Volunteer Needed] Outreachy Coordinator for the ASF > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> On Fri, Jul 12, 2019 at 7:31 PM Ross Gardler > > >>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> I'm all for the proposal but... > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Why would this committee be doing fundraising? Nothing in the > > >>>> proposal > > >>>>>> we currently have consensus around requires fundraising. There is > a > > >>>>> reason > > >>>>>> for this. Furthermore, we have a fundraising committee charged > with > > >>>>>> fundraising activities should it ever be approved that the ASF > raises > > >>>>> funds > > >>>>>> for Outreachy. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Would the following be acceptable? > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> In most organizations that Outreachy deals with, the organization > > >>>>>> itself sponsors Outreachy's efforts. At the moment, the ASF is > not > > >>>>>> such an organization, and may never be. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Instead we are currently relying on generous sponsor(s), and from > time > > >>>>>> to time may need to work directly with them. Any such work will > need > > >>>>>> to be coordinated by out fundraising committee which is largely > > >>>>>> composed of volunteers. Fundraising already works closely with > > >>>>>> Marketing and Publicity, Conferences, and Virtual Inc. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> The Outreachy coordinators can decide amongst themselves to what > > >>>>>> extent it makes sense to work with fundraising and which of them > (if > > >>>>>> any) will liaise with the fundraising committee. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Ross > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> --- > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Sent from my phone, likely while waking down the stars and > having a > > >>>>>> conversation. Sorry about my carelessness, I blame the machines. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> - Sam Ruby > > >>>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>> -- > > >>>> Matt Sicker <[email protected]> > > >>>> > > >> > > >> Craig L Russell > > >> [email protected] > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > -- > Matt Sicker <[email protected]> >
