On Mon, Jul 15, 2019, 8:49 AM Joan Touzet <[email protected]> wrote: > Gris, did we confirm with Sage Sharp that 3 people sharing the > Coordinator role is OK? The text on the website implies a single person. >
I haven't confirmed explicitly, however I know the Mozilla community splits the tasks with two people. Will get back to this thread after Sage confirms. > To Ross's point, we have 3 people who've agreed to help, and have met > with the Chair's approval, so I think this meets his statement. The role > of the coordinator is very well laid out as a facilitation role only on > Outreachy's website. > > +1 with either approach to clarify the fundraising aspect, to avoid > confusion and lengthy, flame-fest emails ;) > Ack. > -Joan "enough is enough" Touzet > > > > On 2019-07-15 3:37, Ross Gardler wrote: > > +1 (is prefer to remove fundraising entirely in order to allow > unhindered progress, but Sam's attempt to be explicit about the scope of > fundraising efforts is ok by me) > > > > With respect to "assigning" individuals to roles: fine if someone wants > the job let them do it. It's the Apache Way to NOT have appointed leaders. > The goal is to let whoever is doing the work lead the work. Formally > assigning people can have the disadvantage of giving the impression that > others are not entitled to help. On the other hand when things are time > based having someone to make decisions can be good. > > > > So, +1 to assign anyone willing to do the work, but let's ensure they > consider their primary responsibility is to help others contribute to the > effort. Their secondary role is to ensure we hit deadlines. > > > > Ross > > > > --- > > > > Sent from my phone, likely while waking down the stars and having a > conversation. Sorry about my carelessness, I blame the machines. > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Craig Russell <[email protected]> > > Sent: Monday, July 15, 2019 3:55:43 AM > > To: [email protected] <[email protected]> > > Subject: Re: [Volunteer Needed] Outreachy Coordinator for the ASF > > > > My only concern with the whole Outreachy effort is the implied > coordination with fundraising. At least for the time being, we should > simply say that fundraising is out of scope for D&I. No effort should be > made to do anything but understand the current situation with funding. > > > > That said, having the three individuals sharing the coordination role is > a great step forward. > > > > Craig > > > > > >> On Jul 14, 2019, at 11:53 AM, Griselda Cuevas <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> > >> Just to for clarification. > >> > >> I'd like to hear your feedback on assigning Matt, Katia and Awasum as > >> Outreachy coordinators for the ASF. I'd like to make this official > after > >> 72h from this email. > >> > >> On Sat, Jul 13, 2019, 10:16 AM Matt Sicker <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >>> Working with Fundraising makes incredible sense for future work so we > can > >>> get more sponsors. The first round (Winter 2019) sounds funded > already, so > >>> any work done with Fundraising would be to target the Summer 2020 > Outreachy > >>> round. > >>> > >>> On Sat, Jul 13, 2019 at 12:04, Griselda Cuevas <[email protected] > > > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Agreed. Thanks Sam & Ross. > >>>> > >>>> On Sat, Jul 13, 2019, 12:15 AM Ross Gardler > >>>> <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Yes. > >>>>> > >>>>> As Sam neatly highlights in his clarification it is critical to draw > >>>>> accurate boundaries when pushing back against community concerns. > Small > >>>>> reversible steps is a phrase we often use, I guess we should make it > >>>> "Small > >>>>> and clearly defined reversible steps". > >>>>> > >>>>> Ross > >>>>> > >>>>> --- > >>>>> > >>>>> Sent from my phone, likely while waking down the stars and having a > >>>>> conversation. Sorry about my carelessness, I blame the machines. > >>>>> > >>>>> ________________________________ > >>>>> From: Sam Ruby <[email protected]> > >>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2019 5:36:08 AM > >>>>> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> > >>>>> Subject: Re: [Volunteer Needed] Outreachy Coordinator for the ASF > >>>>> > >>>>> On Fri, Jul 12, 2019 at 7:31 PM Ross Gardler > >>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I'm all for the proposal but... > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Why would this committee be doing fundraising? Nothing in the > >>> proposal > >>>>> we currently have consensus around requires fundraising. There is a > >>>> reason > >>>>> for this. Furthermore, we have a fundraising committee charged with > >>>>> fundraising activities should it ever be approved that the ASF raises > >>>> funds > >>>>> for Outreachy. > >>>>> > >>>>> Would the following be acceptable? > >>>>> > >>>>> In most organizations that Outreachy deals with, the organization > >>>>> itself sponsors Outreachy's efforts. At the moment, the ASF is not > >>>>> such an organization, and may never be. > >>>>> > >>>>> Instead we are currently relying on generous sponsor(s), and from > time > >>>>> to time may need to work directly with them. Any such work will need > >>>>> to be coordinated by out fundraising committee which is largely > >>>>> composed of volunteers. Fundraising already works closely with > >>>>> Marketing and Publicity, Conferences, and Virtual Inc. > >>>>> > >>>>> The Outreachy coordinators can decide amongst themselves to what > >>>>> extent it makes sense to work with fundraising and which of them (if > >>>>> any) will liaise with the fundraising committee. > >>>>> > >>>>>> Ross > >>>>>> > >>>>>> --- > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Sent from my phone, likely while waking down the stars and having a > >>>>> conversation. Sorry about my carelessness, I blame the machines. > >>>>> > >>>>> - Sam Ruby > >>>>> > >>>> > >>> -- > >>> Matt Sicker <[email protected]> > >>> > > > > Craig L Russell > > [email protected] > > > > > >
