Hi Clayton, all,
ccornell - OpenOffice.org wrote:
I'm curious as to why this is happening? Is there perhaps a better
way to do this?
Simply because people don't think about what they are doing or don't
realize that they have replaced the original text. When I contact then
to tell them they've done this it's almost always surprise.. they didn't
think about it.
I'm not sure why though since it's pretty clear they are removing the
original text when they do the edits... but once it's brought ot their
attention, it doesn't happen again, and they carry on translating.
Part of the issue is there is no clear info on this, and the Wiki is in
a bit of a mess when it comes to grouping languages... some are using
ISO codes (eg French, Japanese communities etc.), and others are not.
I'm not familiar with the process of translation. Is it awkward? Do
I have to pull up two different wiki sections to translate? Am I
using two tabs to two different sections of the wiki? Or are two
browsers open to two different locations?
There are (currently) no tools or mechanisms in place in the Wiki to
assist with translations. The process is basically:
1. Identify a page that is to be translated
2. Click Edit
3. Select all text and copy
4. Cancel the edit
5. Start a new page with the "right" page name for the new translated
article
6. Paste in the copied original language text
7. Save to give a start point
8. Translate the text on the new page
It's a bit cumbersome, but this is generally how various language groups
are doing this (with some variations such as doing the translations on
sub-pages of their user pages etc.).
Yes and sometimes also translating off line.
Are there better ways to do it? Probably... I've been meaning to look
into this... a preliminary search turned up this extension, but... no
idea if it's what's needed or not:
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Translate
In fact, as I read the description, probably not.... but this could
maybe spark an idea for someone here? Is there an extension that would
help with in-wiki translations? Maybe an extension that adds a
"Translate this page" link at the top next to the Edit link? and then
opens a new page, copies the parent page text over... or something...
don't know for sure (I'm just brainstorming and repeating ideas from a
conversation I had in the office this morning on this topic).
What we (l10n teams) would like to have his a conversion to .po or xliff
so that we can work with our translation tools and most important our
translation memory. This ensure consistency between the UI, help files
and the documentation because we use the same glossary/terminology for them.
We have discuss this during OOoCon. But the export/import filters are
not going very well from what Rafaella told us.
It seems to be possible to export wiki content to .po, this is used for
translating offline mediawiki extensions. See the page here :
http://translatewiki.net/wiki/Translating:Offline
but I don't know how it would be manageable for us.
Kind regards
Sophie
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