I'm fine with a second reound of votes. So we can close here this thread and I open a new one just now.
2013/6/2 Erik de Bruin <e...@ixsoftware.nl> > Ok, if that's what it takes to avoid further confusion, I'll second > (or third) a new vote, but all the points you raise have been > discussed and the resulting consensus conforms with the points you > want to add/amend in the new vote. > > Note also that Parsley also seems to be on the point of being donated, > so all the 'endorsment' worries seem premature and unnecessary. > > A point of procedure: can you add a 'binding' vote AFTER the result > has been called? > > EdB > > > > On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 8:05 AM, Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com> wrote: > > My count is now three binding -1's. Igor Costa, Jeff Tapper, and Om. I > > guess I'll add a fourth. Jeff qualified his vote, but it still reads as > > -1 because it isn't right to assume he accepts your interpretation of the > > proposal. Jeff should change his vote if he is convinced. > > > > The amount of discussion and confusion by others that we are not picking > > Swiz as the favorite and that Parsley and other app frameworks are > > welcome, makes me make another plea to re-do this vote. Reading some of > > these posts make it clear to me that folks have different ideas of what > is > > going to happen in the future. I'm still unclear whether Swiz AOP code > is > > going to be moved into the framework or not. I thought we were going to > > warehouse Swiz, but instead, it appears that Carlos wants to make a set > of > > significant improvements to Swiz, which is fine, but might be what makes > > people think we're endorsing or playing favorites. > > > > Yes, you have the numbers to forge ahead, but we are told to consider the > > number of -1's. > > > > I would recommend a proposal that states clearly that > > > > 1) Swiz goes in its own repo. The original proposal says it could go > into > > a folder under utilities, but I think flexunit is a better model. > > 2) Swiz will have active development but release separately from the SDK. > > The activity level isn't quite clear from the original proposal. People > > need to be comfortable that this activity isn't an endorsement or > > favoritism. > > 3) Acceptance of Swiz is not an endorsement or favoritism. > > 4) Any other app framework is welcomed to be donated via the same > process. > > > > It would make me much happier to have a vote thread with just +1's or > -1's > > without qualifications. > > > > -Alex > > > > On 6/1/13 10:19 AM, "OmPrakash Muppirala" <bigosma...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >>I am sorry, but I voted a -1 binding as well and my concerns have not > been > >>addressed. > >> > >>If we are going to go ahead, can we at least bring it into a contrib > >>folder > >>and make at least one release out of it before promoting it to a main > >>repo? > >> > >>Thanks, > >>Om > >>On Jun 1, 2013 10:07 AM, "Carlos Rovira" <carlos.rov...@codeoscopic.com> > >>wrote: > >> > >>> Ok Erik, > >>> > >>> I see it ok as well. As you said there's only one -1 binding vote (Igor > >>> Costa) and one -1 non binding vote (Carlos Velasco), and it was already > >>> explained the motivations behind the donation and the intention to > >>>maintain > >>> swiz out of main flex-sdk cycle and not promote it as the preferred > >>>mvc-ioc > >>> microarquitecture. > >>> > >>> So for me it's ok, if it's ok for the rest of people here. > >>> > >>> Hope Chris could send us that email soon regarding it's intention of > >>>donate > >>> the source code and wiki > >>> > >>> Thanks to you Erik as well for clearing things here. > >>> > >>> > >>> Carlos > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> 2013/6/1 Erik de Bruin <e...@ixsoftware.nl> > >>> > >>> > I think this is a valid vote and there is no need to declare it > >>> > invalid. There is only one definite, binding -1 (Igor) and he > declined > >>> > to explain his motivation, something that is customary when casting a > >>> > negative vote. > >>> > > >>> > Once Chris Scott 'officially' donates Swiz - there are some hoops he > >>> > has to jump through, but we'll get to those when he contacts us- we > >>> > can create a new repo for it: either a general 'flex-contrib/swiz' or > >>> > a specific one, like 'flex-swiz', we need to discuss that a bit more, > >>> > I think. > >>> > > >>> > Thank you Carlos for managing the vote and keeping track of this > >>> donation. > >>> > > >>> > EdB > >>> > > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Carlos Rovira > >>> Director de Tecnología > >>> M: +34 607 22 60 05 > >>> F: +34 912 94 80 80 > >>> http://www.codeoscopic.com > >>> http://www.directwriter.es > >>> http://www.avant2.es > >>> > > > > > > -- > Ix Multimedia Software > > Jan Luykenstraat 27 > 3521 VB Utrecht > > T. 06-51952295 > I. www.ixsoftware.nl > -- Carlos Rovira Director de Tecnología M: +34 607 22 60 05 F: +34 912 94 80 80 http://www.codeoscopic.com http://www.directwriter.es http://www.avant2.es
