Trademarks is a private list so I can't forward without permission. I will say that I did get a response today and the answer was not an unequivocal "no". More discussion has to happen in private before a final ruling is made.
-Alex On 1/4/14 12:44 PM, "Joseph Balderson" <n...@joeflash.ca> wrote: >Thanks Alex. If you could forward me a copy of their reply off-list to >jbdes...@joeflash.ca and/or forward them my email, that would be greatly >appreciated. > > >_______________________________________________________________________ > >Joseph Balderson, Flex & Flash Platform Developer :: http://joeflash.ca >Author, Professional Flex 3 :: http://tinyurl.com/proflex3book > >Joseph Balderson wrote: >> My only concern is that, in the absence of the details contained in my >>formal >> request as outlined below, the initial contact to Apache trademarks >>regarding >> this issue might not constitute "putting our best foot forward" in >>having this >> use case approved. And since I do not know the content of your initial >> communication to them on my behalf, I cannot say one way or another. It >>would >> ease my mind to know that Apache were aware of the contents of my >>proposal >> before reaching a verdict, which is why I wonder if waiting to send >>them this >> information would be the wisest course of action. >> >> Thanks very much for your help, >> >> Joseph >> >> >> _______________________________________________________________________ >> >> Joseph Balderson, Flex & Flash Platform Developer :: http://joeflash.ca >> Author, Professional Flex 3 :: http://tinyurl.com/proflex3book >> >> Alex Harui wrote: >>> Joe, >>> >>> If it were me, I'd wait until Tuesday to contact trademarks@a.o. I've >>> already asked trademarks for their guidance on this matter and they >>> haven't responded yet. I did see trademarks answer another email, but >>> they may not be fully engaged and caught up on everything until Monday. >>> >>> I would suggest tweaking it a bit to make it clear you've read the >>>domain >>> name policy documents on the Apache site, otherwise the first response >>>you >>> get might just be a pointer to those documents. It is pretty clear to >>>me >>> from those documents that you will have to have a disclaimer on your >>>site. >>> IMO, asking "if desired" implies that you haven't read those >>>documents. >>> >>> -Alex >>> >>> On 1/3/14 7:17 PM, "Joseph Balderson" <n...@joeflash.ca> wrote: >>> >>>> FYI, here is my official request proposal to Apache. Alex, if you >>>>would >>>> be so >>>> kind as to forward this on to the folks at Apache that would be >>>>greatly >>>> appreciated. >>>> >>>> >>>>----------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>-- >>>> January 3, 2014 >>>> >>>> To Who It May Concern, >>>> >>>> My name is Joseph Balderson, and I am a professional ActionScript 3.0 >>>> developer >>>> of 13 years, and a specialist Flex developer for 8 years now as of >>>> January 2014. >>>> I have been, in my professional life as an ActionScript developer, an >>>> Adobe-certified Trainer, a teacher of Flash programming at Humber >>>>College >>>> in >>>> Toronto, a speaker at user groups, and a professional tech writer. I >>>>have >>>> tech >>>> edited a number of books by Peachpit, Friends of Ed and O'Reilly, and >>>>in >>>> 2009 I >>>> lead a 6-person team to write a 1400-page book Professional Adobe >>>>Flex 3 >>>> by Wrox >>>> Publishing, rated 4.5 out of 5 stars on Amazon. >>>> >>>> With the migration of the Flex framework from Adobe to Apache, good >>>> internet >>>> resources for Flex have fallen through the cracks, namely Tour De >>>>Flex and >>>> flexexamples.com, both of which have functioned as essential >>>> micro-tutorial >>>> resources for the beginner, a quick reference for the more experienced >>>> programmer, and visibility on its use to managers and stakeholders. >>>>These >>>> two >>>> resources have yet to be migrated/updated to Apache Flex. >>>> >>>> Thus, seeing a need in the programming community, and wanting to help >>>> restore >>>> and promote the adoption of Flex for its own sake, I have purchased >>>>the >>>> domain >>>> apacheflexexamples.com, with the intention of turning it into a >>>> micro-tutorial >>>> site with the same purpose and intent of the former flexexamples.com. >>>>(An >>>> archive of the site as it existed prior to Flex's migration from >>>>Adobe to >>>> Apache >>>> in 2012 can be seen here: >>>> >>>>https://web.archive.org/web/20111010030748/http://blog.flexexamples.com >>>>/ >>>> ). >>>> >>>> To be specific, the purpose and features of apacheflexexamples.com >>>>will >>>> include: >>>> >>>> 1) provide blog-like micro-tutorials; >>>> 2) will be administrated and authored by myself, Joseph Balderson >>>> 3) tutorials will be short, on average "single page", thus no code >>>> repository or >>>> downloads of any kind will be necessary; >>>> 4) where possible the most recent version of Apache Flex will be used >>>>and >>>> indicated; >>>> 5) an average of one post per business day will be issued on the site; >>>> 6) commenting will be disabled, and users will be encouraged to >>>>discuss >>>> the >>>> tutorials on the official us...@flex.apache.org list; >>>> 7) an email address will be set up where users can contact the >>>> administrator >>>> (me) for the specific purpose of pointing out typos or problems >>>>specific >>>> to the >>>> examples which are non-specific to Flex framework errata issues; >>>> 8) a resource/"blogroll" list of resource links will be situated in a >>>> prominent >>>> location in the left or right column so as to help users refer to >>>>official >>>> Apache Flex resources; >>>> 9) if desired, to avoid confusion with official Apache websites, a >>>> disclaimer >>>> similar to what is currently used in book titles and other >>>>publications >>>> will be >>>> indicated at the top of every page, "Apache, Apache Flex, and Flex are >>>> trademarks of The Apache Software Foundation. Used with permission. No >>>> endorsement by The Apache Software Foundation is implied by the use of >>>> these marks." >>>> 10) no personal promotions (other than an author credit on my part), >>>>nor >>>> any >>>> product reviews, endorsements or sales of any kind will be permitted >>>>on >>>> the >>>> site: it is strictly for micro-tutorials pertaining to the Apache Flex >>>> framework. (See the flexexamples.com archive as an example) >>>> >>>> In addition, if there comes a time when I am no longer willing or >>>>able to >>>> administer the site or keep up a reasonable posting frequency, I will >>>> commit in >>>> writing to donating the domain and the site administration to the >>>>Apache >>>> Flex group. >>>> >>>> The aim is to have a few dozen examples blogged and ready to go prior >>>>to >>>> launch >>>> sometime in February of 2014. A private beta will be issued, to be >>>> reviewed by >>>> the Apache Flex development team (and the legal department at Apache >>>>if >>>> such is >>>> desired) to ensure everyone concerned is satisfied with the end result >>>> prior to >>>> launch. Once the site is launched, posting frequency will be as >>>>indicated >>>> above. >>>> >>>> All this to say that I am very vested and interested in conserving the >>>> quality >>>> and integrity of the Apache Flex name. And in order to help increase >>>> positive >>>> adoption of Apache Flex usage, I have purchased this domain with the >>>> intent of >>>> continuing on the work of the esteemed former Adobe employee Peter >>>>DeHaan >>>> at >>>> flexexamples.com with a new site. In the spirit of this intent, I >>>>humbly >>>> request >>>> your permission to use the Apache trademark in the domain name >>>> apacheflexexamples.com. >>>> >>>> Thank you, >>>> >>>> Joseph Balderson >>>> Flex Developer & Tech Writer >>>> http://www.joeflash.ca >>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/joeflash >>>> http://tinyurl.com/proflex3book >>>> >>> >>
