We're still waiting on more information from trademarks. Sunday was when I last heard from them last week, so I'm hoping we'll hear something today.
Thanks for being patient. -Alex On 1/12/14 1:32 AM, "Joseph Balderson" <n...@joeflash.ca> wrote: >Any news, Alex? > >Thanks, >_______________________________________________________________________ > >Joseph Balderson, Flex & Flash Platform Developer :: http://joeflash.ca >Author, Professional Flex 3 :: http://tinyurl.com/proflex3book > >Joseph Balderson wrote: >> apacheflexexamples.com >>> a continuance of flexexamples.com by Peter >>DeHaan >> >> _______________________________________________________________________ >> >> Joseph Balderson, Flex & Flash Platform Developer :: http://joeflash.ca >> Author, Professional Flex 3 :: http://tinyurl.com/proflex3book >> >> Stephane Beladaci wrote: >>> Joseph, what is the name you are actually going to use? Does it >>>contain only >>> Flex or Apache Flex? >>> >>> Alex, could you ask Apache trademark the registration numbers related >>>to >>> Flex? I could not find any entry in the USPTO registry. Also, trademark >>> disclaimer on the site does not include "Flex", it reads: "Apache Flex, >>> Apache and the Apache feather logo are trademarks of The Apache >>>Software >>> Foundation". >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Joseph Balderson [mailto:n...@joeflash.ca] >>> Sent: Sunday, January 5, 2014 11:39 PM >>> To: dev@flex.apache.org >>> Subject: Re: Apache Flex Examples Proposal >>> >>> Alex, how is Apache trademarks going to be aware of the full intent of >>>the >>> future site if you cannot forward the contents of my proposal detailed >>> above? I gotta be honest man, I am really not liking where this is >>>going. >>> Methinks it might have been better to allow me the opportunity to >>>describe >>> the project a little more formally before submitting a proposal on my >>> behalf? I came to this list seeking advice on protocol, not to have the >>> trademark request submitted without my knowledge. >>> >>> Please advise. >>> _______________________________________________________________________ >>> >>> Joseph Balderson, Flex & Flash Platform Developer :: http://joeflash.ca >>> Author, Professional Flex 3 :: http://tinyurl.com/proflex3book >>> >>> Alex Harui wrote: >>>> Trademarks is a private list so I can't forward without permission. >>>>I >>>> will say that I did get a response today and the answer was not an >>>> unequivocal "no". More discussion has to happen in private before a >>>> final ruling is made. >>>> >>>> -Alex >>>> >>>> On 1/4/14 12:44 PM, "Joseph Balderson" <n...@joeflash.ca> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Thanks Alex. If you could forward me a copy of their reply off-list >>>>> to jbdes...@joeflash.ca and/or forward them my email, that would be >>>>> greatly appreciated. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _____________________________________________________________________ >>>>> __ >>>>> >>>>> Joseph Balderson, Flex & Flash Platform Developer :: >>>>> http://joeflash.ca Author, Professional Flex 3 :: >>>>> http://tinyurl.com/proflex3book >>>>> >>>>> Joseph Balderson wrote: >>>>>> My only concern is that, in the absence of the details contained in >>>>>> my formal request as outlined below, the initial contact to Apache >>>>>> trademarks regarding this issue might not constitute "putting our >>>>>> best foot forward" in having this use case approved. And since I do >>>>>> not know the content of your initial communication to them on my >>>>>> behalf, I cannot say one way or another. It would ease my mind to >>>>>> know that Apache were aware of the contents of my proposal before >>>>>> reaching a verdict, which is why I wonder if waiting to send them >>>>>> this information would be the wisest course of action. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks very much for your help, >>>>>> >>>>>> Joseph >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ____________________________________________________________________ >>>>>> ___ >>>>>> >>>>>> Joseph Balderson, Flex & Flash Platform Developer :: >>>>>> http://joeflash.ca Author, Professional Flex 3 :: >>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/proflex3book >>>>>> >>>>>> Alex Harui wrote: >>>>>>> Joe, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If it were me, I'd wait until Tuesday to contact trademarks@a.o. >>>>>>> I've already asked trademarks for their guidance on this matter >>>>>>>and >>>>>>> they haven't responded yet. I did see trademarks answer another >>>>>>> email, but they may not be fully engaged and caught up on >>>>>>>everything >>> until Monday. >>>>>>> I would suggest tweaking it a bit to make it clear you've read the >>>>>>> domain name policy documents on the Apache site, otherwise the >>>>>>> first response you get might just be a pointer to those documents. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It is pretty clear to me from those documents that you will have >>>>>>>to >>>>>>> have a disclaimer on your site. >>>>>>> IMO, asking "if desired" implies that you haven't read those >>>>>>> documents. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -Alex >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 1/3/14 7:17 PM, "Joseph Balderson" <n...@joeflash.ca> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> FYI, here is my official request proposal to Apache. Alex, if you >>>>>>>> would be so kind as to forward this on to the folks at Apache >>>>>>>>that >>>>>>>> would be greatly appreciated. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>>>> ----- >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> January 3, 2014 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To Who It May Concern, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> My name is Joseph Balderson, and I am a professional ActionScript >>>>>>>> 3.0 developer of 13 years, and a specialist Flex developer for 8 >>>>>>>> years now as of January 2014. >>>>>>>> I have been, in my professional life as an ActionScript >>>>>>>>developer, >>>>>>>> an Adobe-certified Trainer, a teacher of Flash programming at >>>>>>>> Humber College in Toronto, a speaker at user groups, and a >>>>>>>> professional tech writer. I have tech edited a number of books by >>>>>>>> Peachpit, Friends of Ed and O'Reilly, and in >>>>>>>> 2009 I >>>>>>>> lead a 6-person team to write a 1400-page book Professional Adobe >>>>>>>> Flex 3 by Wrox Publishing, rated 4.5 out of 5 stars on Amazon. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> With the migration of the Flex framework from Adobe to Apache, >>>>>>>> good internet resources for Flex have fallen through the cracks, >>>>>>>> namely Tour De Flex and flexexamples.com, both of which have >>>>>>>> functioned as essential micro-tutorial resources for the >>>>>>>>beginner, >>>>>>>> a quick reference for the more experienced programmer, and >>>>>>>> visibility on its use to managers and stakeholders. >>>>>>>> These >>>>>>>> two >>>>>>>> resources have yet to be migrated/updated to Apache Flex. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thus, seeing a need in the programming community, and wanting to >>>>>>>> help restore and promote the adoption of Flex for its own sake, I >>>>>>>> have purchased the domain apacheflexexamples.com, with the >>>>>>>> intention of turning it into a micro-tutorial site with the same >>>>>>>> purpose and intent of the former flexexamples.com. >>>>>>>> (An >>>>>>>> archive of the site as it existed prior to Flex's migration from >>>>>>>> Adobe to Apache in 2012 can be seen here: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://web.archive.org/web/20111010030748/http://blog.flexexample >>>>>>>> s.com >>>>>>>> / >>>>>>>> ). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To be specific, the purpose and features of >>>>>>>>apacheflexexamples.com >>>>>>>> will >>>>>>>> include: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 1) provide blog-like micro-tutorials; >>>>>>>> 2) will be administrated and authored by myself, Joseph Balderson >>>>>>>> 3) tutorials will be short, on average "single page", thus no >>>>>>>>code >>>>>>>> repository or downloads of any kind will be necessary; >>>>>>>> 4) where possible the most recent version of Apache Flex will be >>>>>>>> used and indicated; >>>>>>>> 5) an average of one post per business day will be issued on the >>>>>>>> site; >>>>>>>> 6) commenting will be disabled, and users will be encouraged to >>>>>>>> discuss the tutorials on the official us...@flex.apache.org list; >>>>>>>> 7) an email address will be set up where users can contact the >>>>>>>> administrator >>>>>>>> (me) for the specific purpose of pointing out typos or problems >>>>>>>> specific to the examples which are non-specific to Flex framework >>>>>>>> errata issues; >>>>>>>> 8) a resource/"blogroll" list of resource links will be situated >>>>>>>> in a prominent location in the left or right column so as to help >>>>>>>> users refer to official Apache Flex resources; >>>>>>>> 9) if desired, to avoid confusion with official Apache websites, >>>>>>>>a >>>>>>>> disclaimer similar to what is currently used in book titles and >>>>>>>> other publications will be indicated at the top of every page, >>>>>>>> "Apache, Apache Flex, and Flex are trademarks of The Apache >>>>>>>> Software Foundation. Used with permission. No endorsement by The >>>>>>>> Apache Software Foundation is implied by the use of these marks." >>>>>>>> 10) no personal promotions (other than an author credit on my >>>>>>>> part), nor any product reviews, endorsements or sales of any kind >>>>>>>> will be permitted on the >>>>>>>> site: it is strictly for micro-tutorials pertaining to the Apache >>>>>>>> Flex framework. (See the flexexamples.com archive as an example) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> In addition, if there comes a time when I am no longer willing or >>>>>>>> able to administer the site or keep up a reasonable posting >>>>>>>> frequency, I will commit in writing to donating the domain and >>>>>>>>the >>>>>>>> site administration to the Apache Flex group. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The aim is to have a few dozen examples blogged and ready to go >>>>>>>> prior to launch sometime in February of 2014. A private beta will >>>>>>>> be issued, to be reviewed by the Apache Flex development team >>>>>>>>(and >>>>>>>> the legal department at Apache if such is >>>>>>>> desired) to ensure everyone concerned is satisfied with the end >>>>>>>> result prior to launch. Once the site is launched, posting >>>>>>>> frequency will be as indicated above. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> All this to say that I am very vested and interested in >>>>>>>>conserving >>>>>>>> the quality and integrity of the Apache Flex name. And in order >>>>>>>>to >>>>>>>> help increase positive adoption of Apache Flex usage, I have >>>>>>>> purchased this domain with the intent of continuing on the work >>>>>>>>of >>>>>>>> the esteemed former Adobe employee Peter DeHaan at >>>>>>>> flexexamples.com with a new site. In the spirit of this intent, I >>>>>>>> humbly request your permission to use the Apache trademark in the >>>>>>>> domain name apacheflexexamples.com. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thank you, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Joseph Balderson >>>>>>>> Flex Developer & Tech Writer >>>>>>>> http://www.joeflash.ca >>>>>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/joeflash >>>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/proflex3book >>>>>>>> >>> >>
