Alex, how is Apache trademarks going to be aware of the full intent of the future site if you cannot forward the contents of my proposal detailed above? I gotta be honest man, I am really not liking where this is going. Methinks it might have been better to allow me the opportunity to describe the project a little more formally before submitting a proposal on my behalf? I came to this list seeking advice on protocol, not to have the trademark request submitted without my knowledge.
Please advise. _______________________________________________________________________ Joseph Balderson, Flex & Flash Platform Developer :: http://joeflash.ca Author, Professional Flex 3 :: http://tinyurl.com/proflex3book Alex Harui wrote: > Trademarks is a private list so I can't forward without permission. I > will say that I did get a response today and the answer was not an > unequivocal "no". More discussion has to happen in private before a final > ruling is made. > > -Alex > > On 1/4/14 12:44 PM, "Joseph Balderson" <n...@joeflash.ca> wrote: > >> Thanks Alex. If you could forward me a copy of their reply off-list to >> jbdes...@joeflash.ca and/or forward them my email, that would be greatly >> appreciated. >> >> >> _______________________________________________________________________ >> >> Joseph Balderson, Flex & Flash Platform Developer :: http://joeflash.ca >> Author, Professional Flex 3 :: http://tinyurl.com/proflex3book >> >> Joseph Balderson wrote: >>> My only concern is that, in the absence of the details contained in my >>> formal >>> request as outlined below, the initial contact to Apache trademarks >>> regarding >>> this issue might not constitute "putting our best foot forward" in >>> having this >>> use case approved. And since I do not know the content of your initial >>> communication to them on my behalf, I cannot say one way or another. It >>> would >>> ease my mind to know that Apache were aware of the contents of my >>> proposal >>> before reaching a verdict, which is why I wonder if waiting to send >>> them this >>> information would be the wisest course of action. >>> >>> Thanks very much for your help, >>> >>> Joseph >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________________________________ >>> >>> Joseph Balderson, Flex & Flash Platform Developer :: http://joeflash.ca >>> Author, Professional Flex 3 :: http://tinyurl.com/proflex3book >>> >>> Alex Harui wrote: >>>> Joe, >>>> >>>> If it were me, I'd wait until Tuesday to contact trademarks@a.o. I've >>>> already asked trademarks for their guidance on this matter and they >>>> haven't responded yet. I did see trademarks answer another email, but >>>> they may not be fully engaged and caught up on everything until Monday. >>>> >>>> I would suggest tweaking it a bit to make it clear you've read the >>>> domain >>>> name policy documents on the Apache site, otherwise the first response >>>> you >>>> get might just be a pointer to those documents. It is pretty clear to >>>> me >>>> from those documents that you will have to have a disclaimer on your >>>> site. >>>> IMO, asking "if desired" implies that you haven't read those >>>> documents. >>>> >>>> -Alex >>>> >>>> On 1/3/14 7:17 PM, "Joseph Balderson" <n...@joeflash.ca> wrote: >>>> >>>>> FYI, here is my official request proposal to Apache. Alex, if you >>>>> would >>>>> be so >>>>> kind as to forward this on to the folks at Apache that would be >>>>> greatly >>>>> appreciated. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> -- >>>>> January 3, 2014 >>>>> >>>>> To Who It May Concern, >>>>> >>>>> My name is Joseph Balderson, and I am a professional ActionScript 3.0 >>>>> developer >>>>> of 13 years, and a specialist Flex developer for 8 years now as of >>>>> January 2014. >>>>> I have been, in my professional life as an ActionScript developer, an >>>>> Adobe-certified Trainer, a teacher of Flash programming at Humber >>>>> College >>>>> in >>>>> Toronto, a speaker at user groups, and a professional tech writer. I >>>>> have >>>>> tech >>>>> edited a number of books by Peachpit, Friends of Ed and O'Reilly, and >>>>> in >>>>> 2009 I >>>>> lead a 6-person team to write a 1400-page book Professional Adobe >>>>> Flex 3 >>>>> by Wrox >>>>> Publishing, rated 4.5 out of 5 stars on Amazon. >>>>> >>>>> With the migration of the Flex framework from Adobe to Apache, good >>>>> internet >>>>> resources for Flex have fallen through the cracks, namely Tour De >>>>> Flex and >>>>> flexexamples.com, both of which have functioned as essential >>>>> micro-tutorial >>>>> resources for the beginner, a quick reference for the more experienced >>>>> programmer, and visibility on its use to managers and stakeholders. >>>>> These >>>>> two >>>>> resources have yet to be migrated/updated to Apache Flex. >>>>> >>>>> Thus, seeing a need in the programming community, and wanting to help >>>>> restore >>>>> and promote the adoption of Flex for its own sake, I have purchased >>>>> the >>>>> domain >>>>> apacheflexexamples.com, with the intention of turning it into a >>>>> micro-tutorial >>>>> site with the same purpose and intent of the former flexexamples.com. >>>>> (An >>>>> archive of the site as it existed prior to Flex's migration from >>>>> Adobe to >>>>> Apache >>>>> in 2012 can be seen here: >>>>> >>>>> https://web.archive.org/web/20111010030748/http://blog.flexexamples.com >>>>> / >>>>> ). >>>>> >>>>> To be specific, the purpose and features of apacheflexexamples.com >>>>> will >>>>> include: >>>>> >>>>> 1) provide blog-like micro-tutorials; >>>>> 2) will be administrated and authored by myself, Joseph Balderson >>>>> 3) tutorials will be short, on average "single page", thus no code >>>>> repository or >>>>> downloads of any kind will be necessary; >>>>> 4) where possible the most recent version of Apache Flex will be used >>>>> and >>>>> indicated; >>>>> 5) an average of one post per business day will be issued on the site; >>>>> 6) commenting will be disabled, and users will be encouraged to >>>>> discuss >>>>> the >>>>> tutorials on the official us...@flex.apache.org list; >>>>> 7) an email address will be set up where users can contact the >>>>> administrator >>>>> (me) for the specific purpose of pointing out typos or problems >>>>> specific >>>>> to the >>>>> examples which are non-specific to Flex framework errata issues; >>>>> 8) a resource/"blogroll" list of resource links will be situated in a >>>>> prominent >>>>> location in the left or right column so as to help users refer to >>>>> official >>>>> Apache Flex resources; >>>>> 9) if desired, to avoid confusion with official Apache websites, a >>>>> disclaimer >>>>> similar to what is currently used in book titles and other >>>>> publications >>>>> will be >>>>> indicated at the top of every page, "Apache, Apache Flex, and Flex are >>>>> trademarks of The Apache Software Foundation. Used with permission. No >>>>> endorsement by The Apache Software Foundation is implied by the use of >>>>> these marks." >>>>> 10) no personal promotions (other than an author credit on my part), >>>>> nor >>>>> any >>>>> product reviews, endorsements or sales of any kind will be permitted >>>>> on >>>>> the >>>>> site: it is strictly for micro-tutorials pertaining to the Apache Flex >>>>> framework. (See the flexexamples.com archive as an example) >>>>> >>>>> In addition, if there comes a time when I am no longer willing or >>>>> able to >>>>> administer the site or keep up a reasonable posting frequency, I will >>>>> commit in >>>>> writing to donating the domain and the site administration to the >>>>> Apache >>>>> Flex group. >>>>> >>>>> The aim is to have a few dozen examples blogged and ready to go prior >>>>> to >>>>> launch >>>>> sometime in February of 2014. A private beta will be issued, to be >>>>> reviewed by >>>>> the Apache Flex development team (and the legal department at Apache >>>>> if >>>>> such is >>>>> desired) to ensure everyone concerned is satisfied with the end result >>>>> prior to >>>>> launch. Once the site is launched, posting frequency will be as >>>>> indicated >>>>> above. >>>>> >>>>> All this to say that I am very vested and interested in conserving the >>>>> quality >>>>> and integrity of the Apache Flex name. And in order to help increase >>>>> positive >>>>> adoption of Apache Flex usage, I have purchased this domain with the >>>>> intent of >>>>> continuing on the work of the esteemed former Adobe employee Peter >>>>> DeHaan >>>>> at >>>>> flexexamples.com with a new site. In the spirit of this intent, I >>>>> humbly >>>>> request >>>>> your permission to use the Apache trademark in the domain name >>>>> apacheflexexamples.com. >>>>> >>>>> Thank you, >>>>> >>>>> Joseph Balderson >>>>> Flex Developer & Tech Writer >>>>> http://www.joeflash.ca >>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/joeflash >>>>> http://tinyurl.com/proflex3book >>>>> > >
