Any news, Alex? Thanks, _______________________________________________________________________
Joseph Balderson, Flex & Flash Platform Developer :: http://joeflash.ca Author, Professional Flex 3 :: http://tinyurl.com/proflex3book Joseph Balderson wrote: > apacheflexexamples.com >>> a continuance of flexexamples.com by Peter DeHaan > > _______________________________________________________________________ > > Joseph Balderson, Flex & Flash Platform Developer :: http://joeflash.ca > Author, Professional Flex 3 :: http://tinyurl.com/proflex3book > > Stephane Beladaci wrote: >> Joseph, what is the name you are actually going to use? Does it contain only >> Flex or Apache Flex? >> >> Alex, could you ask Apache trademark the registration numbers related to >> Flex? I could not find any entry in the USPTO registry. Also, trademark >> disclaimer on the site does not include "Flex", it reads: "Apache Flex, >> Apache and the Apache feather logo are trademarks of The Apache Software >> Foundation". >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Joseph Balderson [mailto:n...@joeflash.ca] >> Sent: Sunday, January 5, 2014 11:39 PM >> To: dev@flex.apache.org >> Subject: Re: Apache Flex Examples Proposal >> >> Alex, how is Apache trademarks going to be aware of the full intent of the >> future site if you cannot forward the contents of my proposal detailed >> above? I gotta be honest man, I am really not liking where this is going. >> Methinks it might have been better to allow me the opportunity to describe >> the project a little more formally before submitting a proposal on my >> behalf? I came to this list seeking advice on protocol, not to have the >> trademark request submitted without my knowledge. >> >> Please advise. >> _______________________________________________________________________ >> >> Joseph Balderson, Flex & Flash Platform Developer :: http://joeflash.ca >> Author, Professional Flex 3 :: http://tinyurl.com/proflex3book >> >> Alex Harui wrote: >>> Trademarks is a private list so I can't forward without permission. I >>> will say that I did get a response today and the answer was not an >>> unequivocal "no". More discussion has to happen in private before a >>> final ruling is made. >>> >>> -Alex >>> >>> On 1/4/14 12:44 PM, "Joseph Balderson" <n...@joeflash.ca> wrote: >>> >>>> Thanks Alex. If you could forward me a copy of their reply off-list >>>> to jbdes...@joeflash.ca and/or forward them my email, that would be >>>> greatly appreciated. >>>> >>>> >>>> _____________________________________________________________________ >>>> __ >>>> >>>> Joseph Balderson, Flex & Flash Platform Developer :: >>>> http://joeflash.ca Author, Professional Flex 3 :: >>>> http://tinyurl.com/proflex3book >>>> >>>> Joseph Balderson wrote: >>>>> My only concern is that, in the absence of the details contained in >>>>> my formal request as outlined below, the initial contact to Apache >>>>> trademarks regarding this issue might not constitute "putting our >>>>> best foot forward" in having this use case approved. And since I do >>>>> not know the content of your initial communication to them on my >>>>> behalf, I cannot say one way or another. It would ease my mind to >>>>> know that Apache were aware of the contents of my proposal before >>>>> reaching a verdict, which is why I wonder if waiting to send them >>>>> this information would be the wisest course of action. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks very much for your help, >>>>> >>>>> Joseph >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ____________________________________________________________________ >>>>> ___ >>>>> >>>>> Joseph Balderson, Flex & Flash Platform Developer :: >>>>> http://joeflash.ca Author, Professional Flex 3 :: >>>>> http://tinyurl.com/proflex3book >>>>> >>>>> Alex Harui wrote: >>>>>> Joe, >>>>>> >>>>>> If it were me, I'd wait until Tuesday to contact trademarks@a.o. >>>>>> I've already asked trademarks for their guidance on this matter and >>>>>> they haven't responded yet. I did see trademarks answer another >>>>>> email, but they may not be fully engaged and caught up on everything >> until Monday. >>>>>> I would suggest tweaking it a bit to make it clear you've read the >>>>>> domain name policy documents on the Apache site, otherwise the >>>>>> first response you get might just be a pointer to those documents. >>>>>> It is pretty clear to me from those documents that you will have to >>>>>> have a disclaimer on your site. >>>>>> IMO, asking "if desired" implies that you haven't read those >>>>>> documents. >>>>>> >>>>>> -Alex >>>>>> >>>>>> On 1/3/14 7:17 PM, "Joseph Balderson" <n...@joeflash.ca> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> FYI, here is my official request proposal to Apache. Alex, if you >>>>>>> would be so kind as to forward this on to the folks at Apache that >>>>>>> would be greatly appreciated. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>>> ----- >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> January 3, 2014 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To Who It May Concern, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> My name is Joseph Balderson, and I am a professional ActionScript >>>>>>> 3.0 developer of 13 years, and a specialist Flex developer for 8 >>>>>>> years now as of January 2014. >>>>>>> I have been, in my professional life as an ActionScript developer, >>>>>>> an Adobe-certified Trainer, a teacher of Flash programming at >>>>>>> Humber College in Toronto, a speaker at user groups, and a >>>>>>> professional tech writer. I have tech edited a number of books by >>>>>>> Peachpit, Friends of Ed and O'Reilly, and in >>>>>>> 2009 I >>>>>>> lead a 6-person team to write a 1400-page book Professional Adobe >>>>>>> Flex 3 by Wrox Publishing, rated 4.5 out of 5 stars on Amazon. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> With the migration of the Flex framework from Adobe to Apache, >>>>>>> good internet resources for Flex have fallen through the cracks, >>>>>>> namely Tour De Flex and flexexamples.com, both of which have >>>>>>> functioned as essential micro-tutorial resources for the beginner, >>>>>>> a quick reference for the more experienced programmer, and >>>>>>> visibility on its use to managers and stakeholders. >>>>>>> These >>>>>>> two >>>>>>> resources have yet to be migrated/updated to Apache Flex. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thus, seeing a need in the programming community, and wanting to >>>>>>> help restore and promote the adoption of Flex for its own sake, I >>>>>>> have purchased the domain apacheflexexamples.com, with the >>>>>>> intention of turning it into a micro-tutorial site with the same >>>>>>> purpose and intent of the former flexexamples.com. >>>>>>> (An >>>>>>> archive of the site as it existed prior to Flex's migration from >>>>>>> Adobe to Apache in 2012 can be seen here: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://web.archive.org/web/20111010030748/http://blog.flexexample >>>>>>> s.com >>>>>>> / >>>>>>> ). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To be specific, the purpose and features of apacheflexexamples.com >>>>>>> will >>>>>>> include: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 1) provide blog-like micro-tutorials; >>>>>>> 2) will be administrated and authored by myself, Joseph Balderson >>>>>>> 3) tutorials will be short, on average "single page", thus no code >>>>>>> repository or downloads of any kind will be necessary; >>>>>>> 4) where possible the most recent version of Apache Flex will be >>>>>>> used and indicated; >>>>>>> 5) an average of one post per business day will be issued on the >>>>>>> site; >>>>>>> 6) commenting will be disabled, and users will be encouraged to >>>>>>> discuss the tutorials on the official us...@flex.apache.org list; >>>>>>> 7) an email address will be set up where users can contact the >>>>>>> administrator >>>>>>> (me) for the specific purpose of pointing out typos or problems >>>>>>> specific to the examples which are non-specific to Flex framework >>>>>>> errata issues; >>>>>>> 8) a resource/"blogroll" list of resource links will be situated >>>>>>> in a prominent location in the left or right column so as to help >>>>>>> users refer to official Apache Flex resources; >>>>>>> 9) if desired, to avoid confusion with official Apache websites, a >>>>>>> disclaimer similar to what is currently used in book titles and >>>>>>> other publications will be indicated at the top of every page, >>>>>>> "Apache, Apache Flex, and Flex are trademarks of The Apache >>>>>>> Software Foundation. Used with permission. No endorsement by The >>>>>>> Apache Software Foundation is implied by the use of these marks." >>>>>>> 10) no personal promotions (other than an author credit on my >>>>>>> part), nor any product reviews, endorsements or sales of any kind >>>>>>> will be permitted on the >>>>>>> site: it is strictly for micro-tutorials pertaining to the Apache >>>>>>> Flex framework. (See the flexexamples.com archive as an example) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In addition, if there comes a time when I am no longer willing or >>>>>>> able to administer the site or keep up a reasonable posting >>>>>>> frequency, I will commit in writing to donating the domain and the >>>>>>> site administration to the Apache Flex group. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The aim is to have a few dozen examples blogged and ready to go >>>>>>> prior to launch sometime in February of 2014. A private beta will >>>>>>> be issued, to be reviewed by the Apache Flex development team (and >>>>>>> the legal department at Apache if such is >>>>>>> desired) to ensure everyone concerned is satisfied with the end >>>>>>> result prior to launch. Once the site is launched, posting >>>>>>> frequency will be as indicated above. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> All this to say that I am very vested and interested in conserving >>>>>>> the quality and integrity of the Apache Flex name. And in order to >>>>>>> help increase positive adoption of Apache Flex usage, I have >>>>>>> purchased this domain with the intent of continuing on the work of >>>>>>> the esteemed former Adobe employee Peter DeHaan at >>>>>>> flexexamples.com with a new site. In the spirit of this intent, I >>>>>>> humbly request your permission to use the Apache trademark in the >>>>>>> domain name apacheflexexamples.com. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thank you, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Joseph Balderson >>>>>>> Flex Developer & Tech Writer >>>>>>> http://www.joeflash.ca >>>>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/joeflash >>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/proflex3book >>>>>>> >> >
