Hi Christopher,

well, I’ve been silent on this mailing list, but I’m reading it very carefully. 
So here are my 2 cents as a non-contributor:


> - lack of interest?

No. I for my part cannot wait for FlexJS to become reality. Just had a job 
interview and they were all ears when I told them about the upcoming FlexJS so 
they can move over their AS3/Flex base! But they also wanted to know when 
FlexJS will be ready for prime time and I had no idea what to tell them. I 
realize this is open source and there’s no roadmap, but this also complicates 
the decision making process for those who would want to use FlexJS and then end 
up using something like TypeScript just to be on the safe side.


> - that you think this is too much rocket-science? / It's too complicated to 
> contribute

Probably. I don’t have any experience with frameworks or compilers so I cannot 
help out there. 
Installed the pre-release versions of FlexJS to write something and give 
feedback, but quickly realized that I don’t even know where to start without 
documentation and gave up.
Even though I’ve followed this mailing list for many months now, I cannot even 
tell approximately at what point it is. Like a todo list and what’s-been-done 
list somewhere.

Finally: you guys certainly do a terrific job and it’s very, very much 
appreciated! Just try to communicate with the outside world more and let them 
know what great a job you’re doing.

Christian




> On Oct 13, 2016, at 8:08 AM, Christofer Dutz <christofer.d...@c-ware.de> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi guys,
> 
> 
> I just wanted to take the opportunity to ask you what's keeping you from 
> participating in any discussions here on the list and on contributing 
> anything else.
> 
> 
> Apache Flex currently has the 10th largest committer base in the ASF, but 
> currently it feels like there is only 4-5 people still active on this 
> project. Having this in-diversity in discussions is starting to get more and 
> more tiresome as I almost know the responses which are going to come if I 
> post something. I think most of the time I could start writing the reply for 
> the expected response right away so I don't have to do it later.
> 
> 
> Are we doing something wrong?
> 
> 
> What's keeping all of you stay silent?
> 
> 
> Is is:
> 
> - lack of interest?
> 
> - lack of time?
> 
> - that you think this is too much rocket-science? / It's too complicated to 
> contribute
> 
> - a consumer attitude that you just want to know what others are doing for 
> you?
> 
> 
> Apache is all about community, but for me this doesn't feel much like a 
> community anymore. Sometimes I think we could rename dev@flex.apache.org to 
> a...@flex.apache.org as he is definitely the most active poster. Discussing 
> stuff with the project sort of feels more and more like "If I want to change 
> something, I'll take it to the list and discuss it with Alex first". It 
> shouldn't be that way.
> 
> 
> Is is just us 4-5 people and we simply have to live with it, or can we do 
> anything to get you guys back on board?
> 
> 
> For the last more-than-a-year I have been working exclusively on trying to 
> lower the complexity to contribute in order to get more people on board. It 
> seems that effort was a waste of time. Please prove me wrong.
> 
> 
> @Alex: I would like to kindly ask you to please refrain from responding right 
> away and let at least a hand full of others respond first. I would like to 
> see if this eventually prevents the "someone else is taking care of it for 
> me" effect.
> 
> 
> Chris
> 

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