My own opinion is that we leave things exactly as they are today. If you are running the binary by hand, you are taking some responsibility for knowing what you are doing. That means having the environment variables setup correctly before you start.
If you don't want that responsibility, use apachectl to run the server. Trying to solve this problem any other way just seems like we are asking for trouble. Ryan ---------------------------------------------- Ryan Bloom [EMAIL PROTECTED] 645 Howard St. [EMAIL PROTECTED] San Francisco, CA > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:trawick@rdu88-251- > 253.nc.rr.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Trawick > Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 7:35 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: is httpd a valid way to start Apache? > > Who would be in favor of this, or parts thereof? I'm anxious to see a > consensus so that steps toward the goal can be filled in over time. > > 1) httpd can't be used directly on Unix because of environment > variable settings > > or "shouldn't", take your pick; I suspect that we're better off if > httpd doesn't work anymore without some magic that people debugging > it would know (maybe AP_DEBUG allows it to work directly) > > (Personally I'd prefer that httpd is the wrapper script, but I see > one person definitely against that and one person definitely for > apachectl being the wrapper script.) > > 2) httpd picks up the following function from apachectl: > > a) "apachectl start" -> "httpd -k start" > (it is different from plain "httpd") > > b) "apachectl startssl" -> "httpd -DSSL -k start" > > c) "apachectl stop" -> "httpd -k stop" > > d) "apachectl restart" -> "httpd -k restart" > > e) "apachectl graceful" -> "httpd -k graceful" > > 3) apachectl becomes a simple wrapper script for httpd > > for the time being, most existing apachectl features will be mapped > to their httpd equivalents > > a) "apachectl configtest" is mapped to the existing "httpd -t" > invocation > > b) the apachectl commands listed above are translated into their > new httpd equivalents, but generally we expect to pass the > command-line through verbatim to httpd > > the following features are lost: > > a) "apachectl fullstatus" > > b) "apachectl status" > > c) "apachectl help" > > -- > Jeff Trawick | [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Born in Roswell... married an alien...
