Please review the PRs:

https://github.com/apache/incubator-kie-kogito-pipelines/pull/1179
https://github.com/apache/incubator-kie-kogito-examples/pull/1867

We are missing the kie-docs, branch main-kogito operator citation. I would
appreciate any help on that front.

As soon as we merge the reproducible PR (
https://github.com/apache/incubator-kie-kogito-images/pull/1741), I'll
create a PR to remove the images from the operator, but the consoles.

Cheers!

On Tue, Feb 6, 2024 at 6:29 PM Alex Porcelli <a...@porcelli.me> wrote:

> Thank you.
>
> As per Zulip: "let's see how it goes with Apps repository, so we can
> better evaluate the impact on the console images. Actually not only
> consoles.. all apps related images".
>
> Hopefully we'll have more info soon-ish as I already see that Tibor
> managed to get Runtimes done.
>
> On Tue, Feb 6, 2024 at 3:51 PM ricardo zanini fernandes
> <ricardozan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Yes, I'll preserve the console images. But see my messages in the
> > reproducible builds at #kogito-dev.
> >
> > Thank you, I'll go on and archive the operator.
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 6, 2024 at 11:08 AM Enrique Gonzalez Martinez <
> > egonza...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > > +1
> > >
> > > El mar, 6 feb 2024, 15:02, Pere Fernandez <pere.fernan...@gmail.com>
> > > escribió:
> > >
> > > > +1
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, 6 Feb 2024 at 14:56, Yeser Amer <ya...@apache.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > +1
> > > > >
> > > > > On 2024/02/06 13:53:02 Alex Porcelli wrote:
> > > > > > Thank you Ricardo for the assessment! The only thing that I'd
> change
> > > > > > is to preserve the console images for now.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > +1 for the proposal with the adjustments to preserve the console
> > > images
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Mon, Feb 5, 2024 at 1:59 PM ricardo zanini fernandes
> > > > > > <ricardozan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Folks, here is the assessment:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-kie-kogito-operator/issues/1537
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Let me know what you think, once I get +1 from you, I'll move
> > > forward
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > clean up everything. It would be nice to have some help under
> the
> > > > docs
> > > > > > > section while I'll work through the code.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Tue, Jan 30, 2024 at 3:43 AM Pere Fernandez (apache) <
> > > > > pefer...@apache.org>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > +1
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > El dl., 29 de gen. 2024, 17:03, Alex Porcelli <
> a...@porcelli.me>
> > > > va
> > > > > > > > escriure:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Thank you, Ricardo. Looking forward to your assessment.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 29, 2024 at 10:56 AM Enrique Gonzalez Martinez
> > > > > > > > > <egonza...@apache.org> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > +1
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > El lun, 29 ene 2024, 16:55, ricardo zanini fernandes <
> > > > > > > > > > ricardozan...@gmail.com> escribió:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Alex,
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Not only the images we should remove/deprecate as we
> did
> > > with
> > > > > Mongo
> > > > > > > > > etc. We
> > > > > > > > > > > also need to review the examples, docs, and so on.
> > > Including
> > > > > this:
> > > > > > > > > > > https://github.com/knative-extensions/eventing-kogito
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I'll do a doc for this assessment later this week and
> share
> > > > it
> > > > > with
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > community.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > A part from that, can I have more +1? :)
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Cheers!
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Jan 28, 2024 at 10:53 AM Alex Porcelli <
> > > > > a...@porcelli.me>
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Was thinking about this proposal and the potential
> > > > additional
> > > > > > > > impact.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > if we don’t ship operator, we may not need provide
> out of
> > > > > the box
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > images, so less code and security surface to cover
> (ie.
> > > > > CVEs).
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > I understand we’ll continue with the serverless
> workflow
> > > > > operator,
> > > > > > > > > so my
> > > > > > > > > > > > suggestion is reduce the images by the only ones
> used by
> > > > > serverless
> > > > > > > > > > > > workflow operator.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jan 26, 2024 at 2:08 PM Jason Porter <
> > > > > > > > > lightguar...@apache.org>
> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Do we have the minutes at least for this weekly
> meeting
> > > > we
> > > > > can
> > > > > > > > > post on
> > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > mailing list, or an accessible link at least?
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2024/01/26 15:05:26 ricardo zanini fernandes
> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Friends,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > As discussed in the weekly meeting, I'm
> proposing to
> > > > > archive
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > legacy
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kogito Operator repository and not make it part
> of
> > > the
> > > > > next
> > > > > > > > > release.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Reasons are:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. It uses a very old concept of deploying
> > > applications
> > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > today
> > > > > > > > > > > can
> > > > > > > > > > > > be
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > achieved via Quarkus Addons and SpringBoot tools.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. One can also use Helm Charts and pipelines
> tooling
> > > > to
> > > > > do the
> > > > > > > > > same
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. It has the old `kogito cli` that lost
> traction.
> > > One
> > > > > can use
> > > > > > > > > > > kubectl
> > > > > > > > > > > > or
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > quarkus cli to achieve the same
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. It deploys explainability, trusty,
> infinispan, and
> > > > > other
> > > > > > > > > services
> > > > > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > we are not supporting anymore.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'll archive the repository and I can write a
> blog
> > > post
> > > > > about
> > > > > > > > > this
> > > > > > > > > > > > > decision
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > once we have a release.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'll update the pipelines to not run it anymore
> too.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I need your +1 to move ahead.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers!
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ricardo Zanini Fernandes
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vida longa e próspera.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
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