I've opened a ticket to archive the REPO
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-25606

On Tue, Feb 27, 2024 at 3:14 PM ricardo zanini fernandes <
ricardozan...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Friends, can you please review?
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-kie-kogito-images/pull/1748
>
> On Thu, Feb 22, 2024 at 12:00 PM ricardo zanini fernandes <
> ricardozan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I forgot to send the PR:
>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-kie-kogito-images/pull/1748 :D
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 22, 2024 at 11:59 AM ricardo zanini fernandes <
>> ricardozan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Folks, this is the last PR before I ask ASF Infra to archive.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 20, 2024 at 5:48 PM ricardo zanini fernandes <
>>> ricardozan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> A note about archiving the operator:
>>>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-kie-kogito-operator/pull/1539
>>>>
>>>> Tomorrow I'll remove the images.
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Feb 15, 2024 at 12:19 PM ricardo zanini fernandes <
>>>> ricardozan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Guys please review?
>>>>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-kie-docs/pull/4535
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Feb 12, 2024 at 3:28 PM ricardo zanini fernandes <
>>>>> ricardozan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Folks, PR for docs, ptal:
>>>>>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-kie-docs/pull/4535
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 8, 2024 at 2:33 PM ricardo zanini fernandes <
>>>>>> ricardozan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Please review the PRs:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-kie-kogito-pipelines/pull/1179
>>>>>>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-kie-kogito-examples/pull/1867
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We are missing the kie-docs, branch main-kogito operator citation. I
>>>>>>> would appreciate any help on that front.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As soon as we merge the reproducible PR (
>>>>>>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-kie-kogito-images/pull/1741),
>>>>>>> I'll create a PR to remove the images from the operator, but the 
>>>>>>> consoles.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 6, 2024 at 6:29 PM Alex Porcelli <a...@porcelli.me>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As per Zulip: "let's see how it goes with Apps repository, so we can
>>>>>>>> better evaluate the impact on the console images. Actually not only
>>>>>>>> consoles.. all apps related images".
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hopefully we'll have more info soon-ish as I already see that Tibor
>>>>>>>> managed to get Runtimes done.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 6, 2024 at 3:51 PM ricardo zanini fernandes
>>>>>>>> <ricardozan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > Yes, I'll preserve the console images. But see my messages in the
>>>>>>>> > reproducible builds at #kogito-dev.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > Thank you, I'll go on and archive the operator.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > On Tue, Feb 6, 2024 at 11:08 AM Enrique Gonzalez Martinez <
>>>>>>>> > egonza...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > > +1
>>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>>> > > El mar, 6 feb 2024, 15:02, Pere Fernandez <
>>>>>>>> pere.fernan...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> > > escribió:
>>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>>> > > > +1
>>>>>>>> > > >
>>>>>>>> > > > On Tue, 6 Feb 2024 at 14:56, Yeser Amer <ya...@apache.org>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> > > >
>>>>>>>> > > > > +1
>>>>>>>> > > > >
>>>>>>>> > > > > On 2024/02/06 13:53:02 Alex Porcelli wrote:
>>>>>>>> > > > > > Thank you Ricardo for the assessment! The only thing that
>>>>>>>> I'd change
>>>>>>>> > > > > > is to preserve the console images for now.
>>>>>>>> > > > > >
>>>>>>>> > > > > > +1 for the proposal with the adjustments to preserve the
>>>>>>>> console
>>>>>>>> > > images
>>>>>>>> > > > > >
>>>>>>>> > > > > > On Mon, Feb 5, 2024 at 1:59 PM ricardo zanini fernandes
>>>>>>>> > > > > > <ricardozan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> > > > > > >
>>>>>>>> > > > > > > Folks, here is the assessment:
>>>>>>>> > > > > > >
>>>>>>>> > > > > > >
>>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-kie-kogito-operator/issues/1537
>>>>>>>> > > > > > >
>>>>>>>> > > > > > > Let me know what you think, once I get +1 from you,
>>>>>>>> I'll move
>>>>>>>> > > forward
>>>>>>>> > > > > and
>>>>>>>> > > > > > > clean up everything. It would be nice to have some help
>>>>>>>> under the
>>>>>>>> > > > docs
>>>>>>>> > > > > > > section while I'll work through the code.
>>>>>>>> > > > > > >
>>>>>>>> > > > > > > Thanks!
>>>>>>>> > > > > > >
>>>>>>>> > > > > > > On Tue, Jan 30, 2024 at 3:43 AM Pere Fernandez (apache)
>>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>>> > > > > pefer...@apache.org>
>>>>>>>> > > > > > > wrote:
>>>>>>>> > > > > > >
>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > +1
>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >
>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > El dl., 29 de gen. 2024, 17:03, Alex Porcelli <
>>>>>>>> a...@porcelli.me>
>>>>>>>> > > > va
>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > escriure:
>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >
>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > Thank you, Ricardo. Looking forward to your
>>>>>>>> assessment.
>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >
>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 29, 2024 at 10:56 AM Enrique Gonzalez
>>>>>>>> Martinez
>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > <egonza...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >
>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > +1
>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >
>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > El lun, 29 ene 2024, 16:55, ricardo zanini
>>>>>>>> fernandes <
>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > ricardozan...@gmail.com> escribió:
>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >
>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > Alex,
>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >
>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > Not only the images we should remove/deprecate
>>>>>>>> as we did
>>>>>>>> > > with
>>>>>>>> > > > > Mongo
>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > etc. We
>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > also need to review the examples, docs, and so
>>>>>>>> on.
>>>>>>>> > > Including
>>>>>>>> > > > > this:
>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >
>>>>>>>> https://github.com/knative-extensions/eventing-kogito
>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >
>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > I'll do a doc for this assessment later this
>>>>>>>> week and share
>>>>>>>> > > > it
>>>>>>>> > > > > with
>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > the
>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > community.
>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >
>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > A part from that, can I have more +1? :)
>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >
>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > Cheers!
>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >
>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Jan 28, 2024 at 10:53 AM Alex Porcelli <
>>>>>>>> > > > > a...@porcelli.me>
>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > wrote:
>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >
>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > Was thinking about this proposal and the
>>>>>>>> potential
>>>>>>>> > > > additional
>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > impact.
>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > if we don’t ship operator, we may not need
>>>>>>>> provide out of
>>>>>>>> > > > > the box
>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > the
>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > images, so less code and security surface to
>>>>>>>> cover (ie.
>>>>>>>> > > > > CVEs).
>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > I understand we’ll continue with the
>>>>>>>> serverless workflow
>>>>>>>> > > > > operator,
>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > so my
>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > suggestion is reduce the images by the only
>>>>>>>> ones used by
>>>>>>>> > > > > serverless
>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > workflow operator.
>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jan 26, 2024 at 2:08 PM Jason Porter <
>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > lightguar...@apache.org>
>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > Do we have the minutes at least for this
>>>>>>>> weekly meeting
>>>>>>>> > > > we
>>>>>>>> > > > > can
>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > post on
>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > the
>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > mailing list, or an accessible link at
>>>>>>>> least?
>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2024/01/26 15:05:26 ricardo zanini
>>>>>>>> fernandes wrote:
>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Friends,
>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > As discussed in the weekly meeting, I'm
>>>>>>>> proposing to
>>>>>>>> > > > > archive
>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > the
>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > legacy
>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kogito Operator repository and not make
>>>>>>>> it part of
>>>>>>>> > > the
>>>>>>>> > > > > next
>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > release.
>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Reasons are:
>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. It uses a very old concept of deploying
>>>>>>>> > > applications
>>>>>>>> > > > > that
>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > today
>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > can
>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > be
>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > achieved via Quarkus Addons and
>>>>>>>> SpringBoot tools.
>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. One can also use Helm Charts and
>>>>>>>> pipelines tooling
>>>>>>>> > > > to
>>>>>>>> > > > > do the
>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > same
>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. It has the old `kogito cli` that lost
>>>>>>>> traction.
>>>>>>>> > > One
>>>>>>>> > > > > can use
>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > kubectl
>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > or
>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > quarkus cli to achieve the same
>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. It deploys explainability, trusty,
>>>>>>>> infinispan, and
>>>>>>>> > > > > other
>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > services
>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > that
>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > we are not supporting anymore.
>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'll archive the repository and I can
>>>>>>>> write a blog
>>>>>>>> > > post
>>>>>>>> > > > > about
>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > this
>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > decision
>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > once we have a release.
>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'll update the pipelines to not run it
>>>>>>>> anymore too.
>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I need your +1 to move ahead.
>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers!
>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > --
>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ricardo Zanini Fernandes
>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vida longa e próspera.
>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >
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>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >
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