Guys please review? https://github.com/apache/incubator-kie-docs/pull/4535

On Mon, Feb 12, 2024 at 3:28 PM ricardo zanini fernandes <
ricardozan...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Folks, PR for docs, ptal:
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-kie-docs/pull/4535
>
> On Thu, Feb 8, 2024 at 2:33 PM ricardo zanini fernandes <
> ricardozan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Please review the PRs:
>>
>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-kie-kogito-pipelines/pull/1179
>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-kie-kogito-examples/pull/1867
>>
>> We are missing the kie-docs, branch main-kogito operator citation. I
>> would appreciate any help on that front.
>>
>> As soon as we merge the reproducible PR (
>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-kie-kogito-images/pull/1741), I'll
>> create a PR to remove the images from the operator, but the consoles.
>>
>> Cheers!
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 6, 2024 at 6:29 PM Alex Porcelli <a...@porcelli.me> wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>> As per Zulip: "let's see how it goes with Apps repository, so we can
>>> better evaluate the impact on the console images. Actually not only
>>> consoles.. all apps related images".
>>>
>>> Hopefully we'll have more info soon-ish as I already see that Tibor
>>> managed to get Runtimes done.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 6, 2024 at 3:51 PM ricardo zanini fernandes
>>> <ricardozan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Yes, I'll preserve the console images. But see my messages in the
>>> > reproducible builds at #kogito-dev.
>>> >
>>> > Thank you, I'll go on and archive the operator.
>>> >
>>> > On Tue, Feb 6, 2024 at 11:08 AM Enrique Gonzalez Martinez <
>>> > egonza...@apache.org> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > +1
>>> > >
>>> > > El mar, 6 feb 2024, 15:02, Pere Fernandez <pere.fernan...@gmail.com>
>>> > > escribió:
>>> > >
>>> > > > +1
>>> > > >
>>> > > > On Tue, 6 Feb 2024 at 14:56, Yeser Amer <ya...@apache.org> wrote:
>>> > > >
>>> > > > > +1
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > On 2024/02/06 13:53:02 Alex Porcelli wrote:
>>> > > > > > Thank you Ricardo for the assessment! The only thing that I'd
>>> change
>>> > > > > > is to preserve the console images for now.
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > > +1 for the proposal with the adjustments to preserve the
>>> console
>>> > > images
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > > On Mon, Feb 5, 2024 at 1:59 PM ricardo zanini fernandes
>>> > > > > > <ricardozan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > Folks, here is the assessment:
>>> > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > >
>>> > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-kie-kogito-operator/issues/1537
>>> > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > Let me know what you think, once I get +1 from you, I'll move
>>> > > forward
>>> > > > > and
>>> > > > > > > clean up everything. It would be nice to have some help
>>> under the
>>> > > > docs
>>> > > > > > > section while I'll work through the code.
>>> > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > Thanks!
>>> > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > On Tue, Jan 30, 2024 at 3:43 AM Pere Fernandez (apache) <
>>> > > > > pefer...@apache.org>
>>> > > > > > > wrote:
>>> > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > +1
>>> > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > El dl., 29 de gen. 2024, 17:03, Alex Porcelli <
>>> a...@porcelli.me>
>>> > > > va
>>> > > > > > > > escriure:
>>> > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > > Thank you, Ricardo. Looking forward to your assessment.
>>> > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 29, 2024 at 10:56 AM Enrique Gonzalez
>>> Martinez
>>> > > > > > > > > <egonza...@apache.org> wrote:
>>> > > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > > > +1
>>> > > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > > > El lun, 29 ene 2024, 16:55, ricardo zanini fernandes <
>>> > > > > > > > > > ricardozan...@gmail.com> escribió:
>>> > > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > > > > Alex,
>>> > > > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > > > > Not only the images we should remove/deprecate as we
>>> did
>>> > > with
>>> > > > > Mongo
>>> > > > > > > > > etc. We
>>> > > > > > > > > > > also need to review the examples, docs, and so on.
>>> > > Including
>>> > > > > this:
>>> > > > > > > > > > >
>>> https://github.com/knative-extensions/eventing-kogito
>>> > > > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > > > > I'll do a doc for this assessment later this week
>>> and share
>>> > > > it
>>> > > > > with
>>> > > > > > > > the
>>> > > > > > > > > > > community.
>>> > > > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > > > > A part from that, can I have more +1? :)
>>> > > > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > > > > Cheers!
>>> > > > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Jan 28, 2024 at 10:53 AM Alex Porcelli <
>>> > > > > a...@porcelli.me>
>>> > > > > > > > > wrote:
>>> > > > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > Was thinking about this proposal and the potential
>>> > > > additional
>>> > > > > > > > impact.
>>> > > > > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > if we don’t ship operator, we may not need provide
>>> out of
>>> > > > > the box
>>> > > > > > > > the
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > images, so less code and security surface to cover
>>> (ie.
>>> > > > > CVEs).
>>> > > > > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > I understand we’ll continue with the serverless
>>> workflow
>>> > > > > operator,
>>> > > > > > > > > so my
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > suggestion is reduce the images by the only ones
>>> used by
>>> > > > > serverless
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > workflow operator.
>>> > > > > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jan 26, 2024 at 2:08 PM Jason Porter <
>>> > > > > > > > > lightguar...@apache.org>
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
>>> > > > > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > Do we have the minutes at least for this weekly
>>> meeting
>>> > > > we
>>> > > > > can
>>> > > > > > > > > post on
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > the
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > mailing list, or an accessible link at least?
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2024/01/26 15:05:26 ricardo zanini fernandes
>>> wrote:
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Friends,
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > As discussed in the weekly meeting, I'm
>>> proposing to
>>> > > > > archive
>>> > > > > > > > the
>>> > > > > > > > > > > legacy
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kogito Operator repository and not make it
>>> part of
>>> > > the
>>> > > > > next
>>> > > > > > > > > release.
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Reasons are:
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. It uses a very old concept of deploying
>>> > > applications
>>> > > > > that
>>> > > > > > > > > today
>>> > > > > > > > > > > can
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > be
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > achieved via Quarkus Addons and SpringBoot
>>> tools.
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. One can also use Helm Charts and pipelines
>>> tooling
>>> > > > to
>>> > > > > do the
>>> > > > > > > > > same
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. It has the old `kogito cli` that lost
>>> traction.
>>> > > One
>>> > > > > can use
>>> > > > > > > > > > > kubectl
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > or
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > quarkus cli to achieve the same
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. It deploys explainability, trusty,
>>> infinispan, and
>>> > > > > other
>>> > > > > > > > > services
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > that
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > we are not supporting anymore.
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'll archive the repository and I can write a
>>> blog
>>> > > post
>>> > > > > about
>>> > > > > > > > > this
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > decision
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > once we have a release.
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'll update the pipelines to not run it
>>> anymore too.
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I need your +1 to move ahead.
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers!
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > --
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ricardo Zanini Fernandes
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vida longa e próspera.
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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