Folks, this is the last PR before I ask ASF Infra to archive.

On Tue, Feb 20, 2024 at 5:48 PM ricardo zanini fernandes <
ricardozan...@gmail.com> wrote:

> A note about archiving the operator:
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-kie-kogito-operator/pull/1539
>
> Tomorrow I'll remove the images.
>
> On Thu, Feb 15, 2024 at 12:19 PM ricardo zanini fernandes <
> ricardozan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Guys please review?
>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-kie-docs/pull/4535
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 12, 2024 at 3:28 PM ricardo zanini fernandes <
>> ricardozan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Folks, PR for docs, ptal:
>>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-kie-docs/pull/4535
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 8, 2024 at 2:33 PM ricardo zanini fernandes <
>>> ricardozan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Please review the PRs:
>>>>
>>>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-kie-kogito-pipelines/pull/1179
>>>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-kie-kogito-examples/pull/1867
>>>>
>>>> We are missing the kie-docs, branch main-kogito operator citation. I
>>>> would appreciate any help on that front.
>>>>
>>>> As soon as we merge the reproducible PR (
>>>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-kie-kogito-images/pull/1741), I'll
>>>> create a PR to remove the images from the operator, but the consoles.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers!
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Feb 6, 2024 at 6:29 PM Alex Porcelli <a...@porcelli.me> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>
>>>>> As per Zulip: "let's see how it goes with Apps repository, so we can
>>>>> better evaluate the impact on the console images. Actually not only
>>>>> consoles.. all apps related images".
>>>>>
>>>>> Hopefully we'll have more info soon-ish as I already see that Tibor
>>>>> managed to get Runtimes done.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Feb 6, 2024 at 3:51 PM ricardo zanini fernandes
>>>>> <ricardozan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Yes, I'll preserve the console images. But see my messages in the
>>>>> > reproducible builds at #kogito-dev.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Thank you, I'll go on and archive the operator.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Tue, Feb 6, 2024 at 11:08 AM Enrique Gonzalez Martinez <
>>>>> > egonza...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > > +1
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > El mar, 6 feb 2024, 15:02, Pere Fernandez <
>>>>> pere.fernan...@gmail.com>
>>>>> > > escribió:
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > > +1
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > > > On Tue, 6 Feb 2024 at 14:56, Yeser Amer <ya...@apache.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > > > > +1
>>>>> > > > >
>>>>> > > > > On 2024/02/06 13:53:02 Alex Porcelli wrote:
>>>>> > > > > > Thank you Ricardo for the assessment! The only thing that
>>>>> I'd change
>>>>> > > > > > is to preserve the console images for now.
>>>>> > > > > >
>>>>> > > > > > +1 for the proposal with the adjustments to preserve the
>>>>> console
>>>>> > > images
>>>>> > > > > >
>>>>> > > > > > On Mon, Feb 5, 2024 at 1:59 PM ricardo zanini fernandes
>>>>> > > > > > <ricardozan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> > > > > > >
>>>>> > > > > > > Folks, here is the assessment:
>>>>> > > > > > >
>>>>> > > > > > >
>>>>> > >
>>>>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-kie-kogito-operator/issues/1537
>>>>> > > > > > >
>>>>> > > > > > > Let me know what you think, once I get +1 from you, I'll
>>>>> move
>>>>> > > forward
>>>>> > > > > and
>>>>> > > > > > > clean up everything. It would be nice to have some help
>>>>> under the
>>>>> > > > docs
>>>>> > > > > > > section while I'll work through the code.
>>>>> > > > > > >
>>>>> > > > > > > Thanks!
>>>>> > > > > > >
>>>>> > > > > > > On Tue, Jan 30, 2024 at 3:43 AM Pere Fernandez (apache) <
>>>>> > > > > pefer...@apache.org>
>>>>> > > > > > > wrote:
>>>>> > > > > > >
>>>>> > > > > > > > +1
>>>>> > > > > > > >
>>>>> > > > > > > > El dl., 29 de gen. 2024, 17:03, Alex Porcelli <
>>>>> a...@porcelli.me>
>>>>> > > > va
>>>>> > > > > > > > escriure:
>>>>> > > > > > > >
>>>>> > > > > > > > > Thank you, Ricardo. Looking forward to your assessment.
>>>>> > > > > > > > >
>>>>> > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 29, 2024 at 10:56 AM Enrique Gonzalez
>>>>> Martinez
>>>>> > > > > > > > > <egonza...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>> > > > > > > > > >
>>>>> > > > > > > > > > +1
>>>>> > > > > > > > > >
>>>>> > > > > > > > > > El lun, 29 ene 2024, 16:55, ricardo zanini fernandes
>>>>> <
>>>>> > > > > > > > > > ricardozan...@gmail.com> escribió:
>>>>> > > > > > > > > >
>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > Alex,
>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >
>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > Not only the images we should remove/deprecate as
>>>>> we did
>>>>> > > with
>>>>> > > > > Mongo
>>>>> > > > > > > > > etc. We
>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > also need to review the examples, docs, and so on.
>>>>> > > Including
>>>>> > > > > this:
>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >
>>>>> https://github.com/knative-extensions/eventing-kogito
>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >
>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > I'll do a doc for this assessment later this week
>>>>> and share
>>>>> > > > it
>>>>> > > > > with
>>>>> > > > > > > > the
>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > community.
>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >
>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > A part from that, can I have more +1? :)
>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >
>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > Cheers!
>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >
>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Jan 28, 2024 at 10:53 AM Alex Porcelli <
>>>>> > > > > a...@porcelli.me>
>>>>> > > > > > > > > wrote:
>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >
>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > Was thinking about this proposal and the
>>>>> potential
>>>>> > > > additional
>>>>> > > > > > > > impact.
>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > if we don’t ship operator, we may not need
>>>>> provide out of
>>>>> > > > > the box
>>>>> > > > > > > > the
>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > images, so less code and security surface to
>>>>> cover (ie.
>>>>> > > > > CVEs).
>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > I understand we’ll continue with the serverless
>>>>> workflow
>>>>> > > > > operator,
>>>>> > > > > > > > > so my
>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > suggestion is reduce the images by the only ones
>>>>> used by
>>>>> > > > > serverless
>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > workflow operator.
>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jan 26, 2024 at 2:08 PM Jason Porter <
>>>>> > > > > > > > > lightguar...@apache.org>
>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > Do we have the minutes at least for this
>>>>> weekly meeting
>>>>> > > > we
>>>>> > > > > can
>>>>> > > > > > > > > post on
>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > the
>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > mailing list, or an accessible link at least?
>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2024/01/26 15:05:26 ricardo zanini
>>>>> fernandes wrote:
>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Friends,
>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > As discussed in the weekly meeting, I'm
>>>>> proposing to
>>>>> > > > > archive
>>>>> > > > > > > > the
>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > legacy
>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kogito Operator repository and not make it
>>>>> part of
>>>>> > > the
>>>>> > > > > next
>>>>> > > > > > > > > release.
>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Reasons are:
>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. It uses a very old concept of deploying
>>>>> > > applications
>>>>> > > > > that
>>>>> > > > > > > > > today
>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > can
>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > be
>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > achieved via Quarkus Addons and SpringBoot
>>>>> tools.
>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. One can also use Helm Charts and
>>>>> pipelines tooling
>>>>> > > > to
>>>>> > > > > do the
>>>>> > > > > > > > > same
>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. It has the old `kogito cli` that lost
>>>>> traction.
>>>>> > > One
>>>>> > > > > can use
>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > kubectl
>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > or
>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > quarkus cli to achieve the same
>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. It deploys explainability, trusty,
>>>>> infinispan, and
>>>>> > > > > other
>>>>> > > > > > > > > services
>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > that
>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > we are not supporting anymore.
>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'll archive the repository and I can write
>>>>> a blog
>>>>> > > post
>>>>> > > > > about
>>>>> > > > > > > > > this
>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > decision
>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > once we have a release.
>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'll update the pipelines to not run it
>>>>> anymore too.
>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I need your +1 to move ahead.
>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers!
>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > --
>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ricardo Zanini Fernandes
>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vida longa e próspera.
>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >
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