A note about archiving the operator:
https://github.com/apache/incubator-kie-kogito-operator/pull/1539

Tomorrow I'll remove the images.

On Thu, Feb 15, 2024 at 12:19 PM ricardo zanini fernandes <
ricardozan...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Guys please review? https://github.com/apache/incubator-kie-docs/pull/4535
>
> On Mon, Feb 12, 2024 at 3:28 PM ricardo zanini fernandes <
> ricardozan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Folks, PR for docs, ptal:
>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-kie-docs/pull/4535
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 8, 2024 at 2:33 PM ricardo zanini fernandes <
>> ricardozan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Please review the PRs:
>>>
>>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-kie-kogito-pipelines/pull/1179
>>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-kie-kogito-examples/pull/1867
>>>
>>> We are missing the kie-docs, branch main-kogito operator citation. I
>>> would appreciate any help on that front.
>>>
>>> As soon as we merge the reproducible PR (
>>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-kie-kogito-images/pull/1741), I'll
>>> create a PR to remove the images from the operator, but the consoles.
>>>
>>> Cheers!
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 6, 2024 at 6:29 PM Alex Porcelli <a...@porcelli.me> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thank you.
>>>>
>>>> As per Zulip: "let's see how it goes with Apps repository, so we can
>>>> better evaluate the impact on the console images. Actually not only
>>>> consoles.. all apps related images".
>>>>
>>>> Hopefully we'll have more info soon-ish as I already see that Tibor
>>>> managed to get Runtimes done.
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Feb 6, 2024 at 3:51 PM ricardo zanini fernandes
>>>> <ricardozan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > Yes, I'll preserve the console images. But see my messages in the
>>>> > reproducible builds at #kogito-dev.
>>>> >
>>>> > Thank you, I'll go on and archive the operator.
>>>> >
>>>> > On Tue, Feb 6, 2024 at 11:08 AM Enrique Gonzalez Martinez <
>>>> > egonza...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > > +1
>>>> > >
>>>> > > El mar, 6 feb 2024, 15:02, Pere Fernandez <pere.fernan...@gmail.com
>>>> >
>>>> > > escribió:
>>>> > >
>>>> > > > +1
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > On Tue, 6 Feb 2024 at 14:56, Yeser Amer <ya...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > > +1
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > > On 2024/02/06 13:53:02 Alex Porcelli wrote:
>>>> > > > > > Thank you Ricardo for the assessment! The only thing that I'd
>>>> change
>>>> > > > > > is to preserve the console images for now.
>>>> > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > +1 for the proposal with the adjustments to preserve the
>>>> console
>>>> > > images
>>>> > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > On Mon, Feb 5, 2024 at 1:59 PM ricardo zanini fernandes
>>>> > > > > > <ricardozan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > Folks, here is the assessment:
>>>> > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > >
>>>> > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-kie-kogito-operator/issues/1537
>>>> > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > Let me know what you think, once I get +1 from you, I'll
>>>> move
>>>> > > forward
>>>> > > > > and
>>>> > > > > > > clean up everything. It would be nice to have some help
>>>> under the
>>>> > > > docs
>>>> > > > > > > section while I'll work through the code.
>>>> > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > Thanks!
>>>> > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > On Tue, Jan 30, 2024 at 3:43 AM Pere Fernandez (apache) <
>>>> > > > > pefer...@apache.org>
>>>> > > > > > > wrote:
>>>> > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > +1
>>>> > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > El dl., 29 de gen. 2024, 17:03, Alex Porcelli <
>>>> a...@porcelli.me>
>>>> > > > va
>>>> > > > > > > > escriure:
>>>> > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > Thank you, Ricardo. Looking forward to your assessment.
>>>> > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 29, 2024 at 10:56 AM Enrique Gonzalez
>>>> Martinez
>>>> > > > > > > > > <egonza...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>> > > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > > +1
>>>> > > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > > El lun, 29 ene 2024, 16:55, ricardo zanini fernandes <
>>>> > > > > > > > > > ricardozan...@gmail.com> escribió:
>>>> > > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > Alex,
>>>> > > > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > Not only the images we should remove/deprecate as
>>>> we did
>>>> > > with
>>>> > > > > Mongo
>>>> > > > > > > > > etc. We
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > also need to review the examples, docs, and so on.
>>>> > > Including
>>>> > > > > this:
>>>> > > > > > > > > > >
>>>> https://github.com/knative-extensions/eventing-kogito
>>>> > > > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > I'll do a doc for this assessment later this week
>>>> and share
>>>> > > > it
>>>> > > > > with
>>>> > > > > > > > the
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > community.
>>>> > > > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > A part from that, can I have more +1? :)
>>>> > > > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > Cheers!
>>>> > > > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Jan 28, 2024 at 10:53 AM Alex Porcelli <
>>>> > > > > a...@porcelli.me>
>>>> > > > > > > > > wrote:
>>>> > > > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > Was thinking about this proposal and the potential
>>>> > > > additional
>>>> > > > > > > > impact.
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > if we don’t ship operator, we may not need
>>>> provide out of
>>>> > > > > the box
>>>> > > > > > > > the
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > images, so less code and security surface to
>>>> cover (ie.
>>>> > > > > CVEs).
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > I understand we’ll continue with the serverless
>>>> workflow
>>>> > > > > operator,
>>>> > > > > > > > > so my
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > suggestion is reduce the images by the only ones
>>>> used by
>>>> > > > > serverless
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > workflow operator.
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jan 26, 2024 at 2:08 PM Jason Porter <
>>>> > > > > > > > > lightguar...@apache.org>
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > Do we have the minutes at least for this weekly
>>>> meeting
>>>> > > > we
>>>> > > > > can
>>>> > > > > > > > > post on
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > the
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > mailing list, or an accessible link at least?
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2024/01/26 15:05:26 ricardo zanini fernandes
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Friends,
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > As discussed in the weekly meeting, I'm
>>>> proposing to
>>>> > > > > archive
>>>> > > > > > > > the
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > legacy
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kogito Operator repository and not make it
>>>> part of
>>>> > > the
>>>> > > > > next
>>>> > > > > > > > > release.
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Reasons are:
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. It uses a very old concept of deploying
>>>> > > applications
>>>> > > > > that
>>>> > > > > > > > > today
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > can
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > be
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > achieved via Quarkus Addons and SpringBoot
>>>> tools.
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. One can also use Helm Charts and pipelines
>>>> tooling
>>>> > > > to
>>>> > > > > do the
>>>> > > > > > > > > same
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. It has the old `kogito cli` that lost
>>>> traction.
>>>> > > One
>>>> > > > > can use
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > kubectl
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > or
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > quarkus cli to achieve the same
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. It deploys explainability, trusty,
>>>> infinispan, and
>>>> > > > > other
>>>> > > > > > > > > services
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > that
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > we are not supporting anymore.
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'll archive the repository and I can write a
>>>> blog
>>>> > > post
>>>> > > > > about
>>>> > > > > > > > > this
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > decision
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > once we have a release.
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'll update the pipelines to not run it
>>>> anymore too.
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I need your +1 to move ahead.
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers!
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > --
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ricardo Zanini Fernandes
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vida longa e próspera.
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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