Folks, PR for docs, ptal:
https://github.com/apache/incubator-kie-docs/pull/4535

On Thu, Feb 8, 2024 at 2:33 PM ricardo zanini fernandes <
ricardozan...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Please review the PRs:
>
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-kie-kogito-pipelines/pull/1179
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-kie-kogito-examples/pull/1867
>
> We are missing the kie-docs, branch main-kogito operator citation. I would
> appreciate any help on that front.
>
> As soon as we merge the reproducible PR (
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-kie-kogito-images/pull/1741), I'll
> create a PR to remove the images from the operator, but the consoles.
>
> Cheers!
>
> On Tue, Feb 6, 2024 at 6:29 PM Alex Porcelli <a...@porcelli.me> wrote:
>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> As per Zulip: "let's see how it goes with Apps repository, so we can
>> better evaluate the impact on the console images. Actually not only
>> consoles.. all apps related images".
>>
>> Hopefully we'll have more info soon-ish as I already see that Tibor
>> managed to get Runtimes done.
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 6, 2024 at 3:51 PM ricardo zanini fernandes
>> <ricardozan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Yes, I'll preserve the console images. But see my messages in the
>> > reproducible builds at #kogito-dev.
>> >
>> > Thank you, I'll go on and archive the operator.
>> >
>> > On Tue, Feb 6, 2024 at 11:08 AM Enrique Gonzalez Martinez <
>> > egonza...@apache.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > > +1
>> > >
>> > > El mar, 6 feb 2024, 15:02, Pere Fernandez <pere.fernan...@gmail.com>
>> > > escribió:
>> > >
>> > > > +1
>> > > >
>> > > > On Tue, 6 Feb 2024 at 14:56, Yeser Amer <ya...@apache.org> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > +1
>> > > > >
>> > > > > On 2024/02/06 13:53:02 Alex Porcelli wrote:
>> > > > > > Thank you Ricardo for the assessment! The only thing that I'd
>> change
>> > > > > > is to preserve the console images for now.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > +1 for the proposal with the adjustments to preserve the console
>> > > images
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > On Mon, Feb 5, 2024 at 1:59 PM ricardo zanini fernandes
>> > > > > > <ricardozan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Folks, here is the assessment:
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-kie-kogito-operator/issues/1537
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Let me know what you think, once I get +1 from you, I'll move
>> > > forward
>> > > > > and
>> > > > > > > clean up everything. It would be nice to have some help under
>> the
>> > > > docs
>> > > > > > > section while I'll work through the code.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Thanks!
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > On Tue, Jan 30, 2024 at 3:43 AM Pere Fernandez (apache) <
>> > > > > pefer...@apache.org>
>> > > > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > +1
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > El dl., 29 de gen. 2024, 17:03, Alex Porcelli <
>> a...@porcelli.me>
>> > > > va
>> > > > > > > > escriure:
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > Thank you, Ricardo. Looking forward to your assessment.
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 29, 2024 at 10:56 AM Enrique Gonzalez Martinez
>> > > > > > > > > <egonza...@apache.org> wrote:
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > +1
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > El lun, 29 ene 2024, 16:55, ricardo zanini fernandes <
>> > > > > > > > > > ricardozan...@gmail.com> escribió:
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > Alex,
>> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > Not only the images we should remove/deprecate as we
>> did
>> > > with
>> > > > > Mongo
>> > > > > > > > > etc. We
>> > > > > > > > > > > also need to review the examples, docs, and so on.
>> > > Including
>> > > > > this:
>> > > > > > > > > > > https://github.com/knative-extensions/eventing-kogito
>> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > I'll do a doc for this assessment later this week and
>> share
>> > > > it
>> > > > > with
>> > > > > > > > the
>> > > > > > > > > > > community.
>> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > A part from that, can I have more +1? :)
>> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > Cheers!
>> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Jan 28, 2024 at 10:53 AM Alex Porcelli <
>> > > > > a...@porcelli.me>
>> > > > > > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > Was thinking about this proposal and the potential
>> > > > additional
>> > > > > > > > impact.
>> > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > if we don’t ship operator, we may not need provide
>> out of
>> > > > > the box
>> > > > > > > > the
>> > > > > > > > > > > > images, so less code and security surface to cover
>> (ie.
>> > > > > CVEs).
>> > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > I understand we’ll continue with the serverless
>> workflow
>> > > > > operator,
>> > > > > > > > > so my
>> > > > > > > > > > > > suggestion is reduce the images by the only ones
>> used by
>> > > > > serverless
>> > > > > > > > > > > > workflow operator.
>> > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jan 26, 2024 at 2:08 PM Jason Porter <
>> > > > > > > > > lightguar...@apache.org>
>> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > Do we have the minutes at least for this weekly
>> meeting
>> > > > we
>> > > > > can
>> > > > > > > > > post on
>> > > > > > > > > > > > the
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > mailing list, or an accessible link at least?
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2024/01/26 15:05:26 ricardo zanini fernandes
>> wrote:
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Friends,
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > As discussed in the weekly meeting, I'm
>> proposing to
>> > > > > archive
>> > > > > > > > the
>> > > > > > > > > > > legacy
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kogito Operator repository and not make it part
>> of
>> > > the
>> > > > > next
>> > > > > > > > > release.
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Reasons are:
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. It uses a very old concept of deploying
>> > > applications
>> > > > > that
>> > > > > > > > > today
>> > > > > > > > > > > can
>> > > > > > > > > > > > be
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > achieved via Quarkus Addons and SpringBoot
>> tools.
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. One can also use Helm Charts and pipelines
>> tooling
>> > > > to
>> > > > > do the
>> > > > > > > > > same
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. It has the old `kogito cli` that lost
>> traction.
>> > > One
>> > > > > can use
>> > > > > > > > > > > kubectl
>> > > > > > > > > > > > or
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > quarkus cli to achieve the same
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. It deploys explainability, trusty,
>> infinispan, and
>> > > > > other
>> > > > > > > > > services
>> > > > > > > > > > > > that
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > we are not supporting anymore.
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'll archive the repository and I can write a
>> blog
>> > > post
>> > > > > about
>> > > > > > > > > this
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > decision
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > once we have a release.
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'll update the pipelines to not run it anymore
>> too.
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I need your +1 to move ahead.
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers!
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > --
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ricardo Zanini Fernandes
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vida longa e próspera.
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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