>- see footer for list info -< You can't cluster/failover with Std which is a key feature of Ent, and so too are the 'unrestricted' threads for email and PDF creation. Neither are disabled or thread-limited if you use .NET. Okay, for PDF you'd need a 3rd party library but there are good free ones or cheap commercial ones and they're fairly easy to use, nothing a .NET programmer could take in their stride. <cfexchange> yes, that's a very cool tag and I would have loved it 5 years ago when I was programming intranet apps that linked in to Exchange and my client would have accepted the Ent price tag because of the unquestionable benefits it would bring. But my Internet sites don't need to connect to Exchange.
Where are you getting the £300 increase from? CF7 when launched was around the £3500 mark. I can't find any official pages to confirm this though. Now that I've got more involved with the business side of things I have to look at CF as "just a programming language". My heart is telling me that it doesn't like this thought but look at it from the client's point of view - they're charged £1000 for the server, a few £K for the services we provide, then £4.5K for CF. It gets harder to justify. If the license was lower I may pick up more clients, then Adobe would get more sales. Look what they did to Flex in order to boost its popularity. I'm not saying to do the same thing, but it needs to be a more viable option for new businesses/developers which means it needs to be more affordable given the competition. e.g. Do you hire CF guys and pay £9K to run it on a cluster of 2, or .NET guys and pay £0 to run it on as many servers as you like? Gary On 7/31/07, Andy Allan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >- see footer for list info -< > One thing to bare in mind is that whilst the US see a $2,500 price > increase for Enterprise, here in the UK we are only seeing a £300 > increase. > > Additionally, bare in mind one of the reasons the UK is complaining so > much right now is because the Pound is absolutely stomping on the > Dollar. If the exchange rate was more favourable to the Dollar we > wouldn't be seeing anywhere near as many complaints. > > Going back to 2002, the exchange rater was around $1.34 to the Pound > (compared to $2.02 right now). That equates to a big difference in > pricing outside of the US. > > Am I defending Adobe over this? Yes and no. > > Yes, because the exchange rate is one of the major forces behind why > there is such a price differential, however I agree that they should be > doing something to help ease this ... > > ... maybe the fact that here in the UK we have only seen a £300 increase > on Enterprise compared to $2,500 in the US is Adobe being nice? > > Additionally, can you really complain about paying £4k-ish for > ENTERPRISE level software. Go get a quote for Websphere or Weblogic , > then factor in how much time it would take you to code something like > <cfexchange> and tell me that ColdFusion Enterprise isn't a bargain. > Seriously. > > Also, if you don't need the clustering, fail over and high performance > features of Enterprise then use Standard. Just about every feature of > Enterprise is now in Standard, including gateways, yet it's price hasn't > changed. OK, you may not get Server Monitoring, but go spend a couple of > hundred quid on Fusion Reactor and you're sorted. > > Come on folks we need to remember that ColdFusion isn't *just* a > programming language; there's way much more to it than that. Seriously, > go write some code to connect to Microsoft Exchange to integrate with > your inbox, calendar, contacts and task list then come back and talk to > me about costs. > > On a different note, in regards subscriptions ... if you get no joy with > Customer Service here in the UK (who are still goddam abysmal) give me a > shout offline and I'll get you sorted by someone at Adobe who does know > what they are doing. > > Andy > > Gary wrote: > >> - see footer for list info -< > >> > > The good news is that CF8 has launched (I like the Tim Buntel demos) but > the > > price has been hiked - the opposite to what many people were hoping. > > Enterprise is $7499 (£3750) from the US Adobe store and a whopping > £4539+VAT > > from the UK store. > > > > CF7 was $5999 so that's a $1500 hike. The new features are great but the > > price is even more of a deterrent for developers and clients to take to > CF, > > and also for existing users who want to add more servers. In recent > months > > BlueDragon have made their license much cheaper in some configurations > and I > > heard they can offer SPLA for hosting services (pay as you go). > > > > To put it in perspective you can buy *FOUR* brand new dual core, 2Gb, > RAID1 > > servers with Windows Server 2003 licenses running .NET for the price of > 1 > > CF8 license. > > > > Anyhue, apologies for using this mailing list as a blog but I do have a > > question. I took out a subscription with CF7 but I don't know how to use > it > > to upgrade to CF8. Would my license key simply be accepted by CF8 or do > I > > need to contact Adobe Sales for a new license key? > > > > Thanks, > > Gary F. > > _______________________________________________ > > > > For details on ALL mailing lists and for joining or leaving lists, go to > http://list.cfdeveloper.co.uk/mailman/listinfo > > > > -- > > CFDeveloper Sponsors:- > > > >> - cfdeveloper Hosting provided by www.cfmxhosting.co.uk -< > >> - Lists hosted by www.Gradwell.com -< > >> - CFdeveloper is run by Russ Michaels, feel free to volunteer your help > -< > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > For details on ALL mailing lists and for joining or leaving lists, go to > http://list.cfdeveloper.co.uk/mailman/listinfo > > -- > CFDeveloper Sponsors:- > >- cfdeveloper Hosting provided by www.cfmxhosting.co.uk -< > >- Lists hosted by www.Gradwell.com -< > >- CFdeveloper is run by Russ Michaels, feel free to volunteer your help > -< > _______________________________________________ For details on ALL mailing lists and for joining or leaving lists, go to http://list.cfdeveloper.co.uk/mailman/listinfo -- CFDeveloper Sponsors:- >- cfdeveloper Hosting provided by www.cfmxhosting.co.uk -< >- Lists hosted by www.Gradwell.com -< >- CFdeveloper is run by Russ Michaels, feel free to volunteer your help -<
