Nah, Just poking to see if you'd squeal :)
*ducks* >-----Original Message----- >From: >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >o.uk] On Behalf Of Snake Hollywood >Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 3:18 PM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] cfstandards...coming soon! > >Why are you bitching about my bitching, don't you have some >dustbins to empty or somehting ? > >Sheesh > >russ > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Stephen Milligan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: 03 February 2004 17:48 >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] cfstandards...coming soon! >> >> >> *snip* >> Of course I do get an apology when I give in and go and fix >their code >> for them, but still I am getting a bit sick of it now >> *snip* >> >> Why are you bitching about this? >> >> You're running a business, right? >> >> Charge people for the support time it took to fix their site and be >> happy that you're able to provide the service that other hosting >> companies can't or won't. >> >> If it turns out that it's not their fault, thank them for finding an >> error in your systems. >> >> Sheesh! >> >> Spike >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> co.uk] On Behalf Of Snake Hollywood >> Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 5:58 AM >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] cfstandards...coming soon! >> >> Lets hope this might teach more people how to build frameworks and >> write modular code instead of pissing about with Fusecrap. >> >> <cf_bitch> >> Yes I am having a moan about fusebox again. >> Why? >> Because we have an increasing number of hosting customers with sites >> written in fusebox, and most of them has come to us at some >point with >> a broken site or a cferror and have insisted it is oour fault and >> there is a problem with our servers insisting there is no >problem with >> their code. >> We (meaning me) then have to go and debug their fusebox code to find >> the error and prove it's not our fault. On the occasions >where I have >> said, sorry your sites written in fusebox that's the problem, I have >> got back quite a lot of abuse along the lines of "I thought you were >> meant to be a good hosting company", "this is shit service", >"there is >> nothing wrong with our code we know what we are doing"... >Etc etc... >> Of course I do get an apology when I give in and go and fix >their code >> for them, but still I am getting a bit sick of it now, because it's >> always fusebox apps this happens with. I don't mind so much >when it's >> regular code as I can usually tell what the problem is >without having >> to wade around in their code first. >> >> I am absolutely adamant now that fusebox promotes developers to >> produce and use code they do not understand and to write apps they >> cannot debug. </cf_bitch> >> >> Now all our customers who are on this list prob wont dare >ask me about >> fusebox problems now :-) Don't be scared I'm lovely really... >> >> Russ Michaels >> Macromedia/Allaire Certified ColdFusion Developer >> >> CFMX Hosting >> Phone: 0845 456 3487 >> Tech Support: 0906 9607800 >> FAX: 0709 2212 636 >> WEB: cfmxhosting.co.uk >> >> >Please use the support helpdesk on our web site to submit support >> >tickets.< >> >> Join our ColdFusion Developer discussion lists. >> Send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: Simon Horwith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > Sent: 03 February 2004 11:37 >> > To: UK DevList (E-mail) >> > Subject: [ cf-dev ] cfstandards...coming soon! >> > >> > >> > I apologize to those of you have already read this post on >CF-Talk, >> > but since I publicly mentioned it on that list and I'd briefly >> > mentioned it on some other lists some time ago without >> divulging any >> > details, I thought I'd post the information to this list so >> that you >> > are more aware of the project I've begun. The site is >> > cfstandards.org, and is committed to the definition of ColdFusion >> > Standards in application functionality and coding practices. The >> > site's still under development, but you can sign up for the >> > newsletter, begin making suggestions for projects, and >> apply to be a >> > volunteer right now. I'll diverge more details when the >> time is right, >> > but for now I'll let you all know a few things about the project: >> > >> > 1. all of the code is open source and free >> > >> > 2. the site will not be a distribution point for UDFs, >custom tags, >> > etc. The purpose of the site is to develop modules for >> functionality >> > common to web applications... very similar to jakarta and the J2EE >> > specification itself >> > >> > 3. in addition to modules for "plug and play" >> functionality, the site >> > will also begin defining development best practices... this will >> > include CFML syntax, the organization of code, >> documentation, and more >> > >> > 4. I am putting together a panel of experts in the industry - >> > development gurus and representatives from the big industry >> players - >> > to make decisions regarding these best practices and to >> make decisions >> > regarding which proposed projects and standards to accept >and reject >> > >> > 5. all of the modules will adhere to these coding >standards and the >> > panel, along with other cfstandards gurus, will determine >> whether or >> > not content submitted by volunteers meets these coding standards >> > >> > >> > There's a little bit of information about the project on the site >> > right now >> > (http://www.cfstandards.org) but like I said, there will be a lot >> > more functionality and information very soon. I have already begun >> > receiving emails from developers that read about the project in my >> > MAX summary back in November (page 2 of >> > http://sys-con.com/coldfusion/article.cfm?id=684) and I encourage >> > any developers on the UK Devlist that are interested in >contributing >> > to contact me off-list via email or via the web site if you wait a >> > day or two. >> > >> > >> > ~Simon >> > >> > >> > Simon Horwith >> > CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. >> > Member of Team Macromedia >> > Macromedia Certified Instructor >> > Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX >> > Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > ** Archive: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%> 40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ >> > >> >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > For additional commands, e-mail: >> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: >> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > >> >> >> -- >> ** Archive: >http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ >> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> For additional commands, e-mail: >[EMAIL PROTECTED] For >> human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> -- >> ** Archive: >http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ >> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> For additional commands, e-mail: >[EMAIL PROTECTED] For >> human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > > >-- >** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >For additional commands, e-mail: >[EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
