Coming in late here... But just to clarify, Russ are you saying that you're finding more bugs/errors in fusebox applications in comparison to non-fusebox applications or just pointing out that its harder to debug a Fusebox application than a non-fusebox application (for a non fuseboxer)?
Kola >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Snake Hollywood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: 03 February 2004 13:58 >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] cfstandards...coming soon! >> >> Lets hope this might teach more people how to build frameworks and write >> modular code instead of pissing about with Fusecrap. >> >> <cf_bitch> >> Yes I am having a moan about fusebox again. >> Why? >> Because we have an increasing number of hosting customers with sites >> written >> in fusebox, and most of them has come to us at some point with a broken >> site >> or a cferror and have insisted it is oour fault and there is a problem >> with >> our servers insisting there is no problem with their code. >> We (meaning me) then have to go and debug their fusebox code to find the >> error and prove it's not our fault. On the occasions where I have said, >> sorry your sites written in fusebox that's the problem, I have got back >> quite a lot of abuse along the lines of "I thought you were meant to be a >> good hosting company", "this is shit service", "there is nothing wrong >> with >> our code we know what we are doing"... Etc etc... Of course I do get an >> apology when I give in and go and fix their code for them, but still I am >> getting a bit sick of it now, because it's always fusebox apps this >> happens >> with. I don't mind so much when it's regular code as I can usually tell >> what >> the problem is without having to wade around in their code first. >> >> I am absolutely adamant now that fusebox promotes developers to produce >> and >> use code they do not understand and to write apps they cannot debug. >> </cf_bitch> >> >> Now all our customers who are on this list prob wont dare ask me about >> fusebox problems now :-) >> Don't be scared I'm lovely really... >> >> Russ Michaels >> Macromedia/Allaire Certified ColdFusion Developer >> >> CFMX Hosting >> Phone: 0845 456 3487 >> Tech Support: 0906 9607800 >> FAX: 0709 2212 636 >> WEB: cfmxhosting.co.uk >> >> >Please use the support helpdesk on our web site to submit support >> tickets.< >> >> Join our ColdFusion Developer discussion lists. >> Send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: Simon Horwith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > Sent: 03 February 2004 11:37 >> > To: UK DevList (E-mail) >> > Subject: [ cf-dev ] cfstandards...coming soon! >> > >> > >> > I apologize to those of you have already read this post on >> > CF-Talk, but since I publicly mentioned it on that list and >> > I'd briefly mentioned it on some other lists some time ago >> > without divulging any details, I thought I'd post the >> > information to this list so that you are more aware of the >> > project I've begun. The site is cfstandards.org, and is >> > committed to the definition of ColdFusion Standards in >> > application functionality and coding practices. The site's >> > still under development, but you can sign up for the >> > newsletter, begin making suggestions for projects, and apply >> > to be a volunteer right now. I'll diverge more details when >> > the time is right, but for now I'll let you all know a few >> > things about the project: >> > >> > 1. all of the code is open source and free >> > >> > 2. the site will not be a distribution point for UDFs, custom >> > tags, etc. The purpose of the site is to develop modules for >> > functionality common to web applications... very similar to >> > jakarta and the J2EE specification itself >> > >> > 3. in addition to modules for "plug and play" functionality, >> > the site will also begin defining development best >> > practices... this will include CFML syntax, the organization >> > of code, documentation, and more >> > >> > 4. I am putting together a panel of experts in the industry - >> > development gurus and representatives from the big industry >> > players - to make decisions regarding these best practices >> > and to make decisions regarding which proposed projects and >> > standards to accept and reject >> > >> > 5. all of the modules will adhere to these coding standards >> > and the panel, along with other cfstandards gurus, will >> > determine whether or not content submitted by volunteers >> > meets these coding standards >> > >> > >> > There's a little bit of information about the project on the >> > site right now >> > (http://www.cfstandards.org) but like I said, there will be a >> > lot more functionality and information very soon. I have >> > already begun receiving emails from developers that read >> > about the project in my MAX summary back in November (page 2 >> > of http://sys-con.com/coldfusion/article.cfm?id=684) and I >> > encourage any developers on the UK Devlist that are >> > interested in contributing to contact me off-list via email >> > or via the web site if you wait a day or two. >> > >> > >> > ~Simon >> > >> > >> > Simon Horwith >> > CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. >> > Member of Team Macromedia >> > Macromedia Certified Instructor >> > Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer >> > Certified Flash MX Developer >> > CFDJList - List Administrator >> > http://www.how2cf.com/ >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ >> > >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > For additional commands, e-mail: >> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: >> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > >> >> >> -- >> ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ >> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ** Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For human help, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
