I've only seen disasters, personally. That said, I've been toying with the idea of setting-up shop in India. I'm more than capable of communicating with people there and with training them... I could most likely charge half of what a Western consulting firm would and still keep myself on the salary I want and pay the staff a very decent salary. For that matter I've also toyed with the idea of simply freelancing from there and offering companies the ability to get work done for much less than you'd typically expect to pay someone like me. I'd be curious to know how many of you would be more willing to outsource to India if you knew I was there overseeing operations, training people, etc.?


~Simon

Simon Horwith
CTO, eTRILOGY ltd.
Member of Team Macromedia
Macromedia Certified Master Instructor
http://www.cfstandards.org



Peter Harrison wrote:

Thinking about this, it feels like there are good and bad in each country, so what you 
need to do is go by past reputation.

Can you get a history on the people you are about to deal with? Hence my suggesting 
rentacoder. Do they keep ratings of programmers?

I have worked with programmers both good and bad, and country of origin certainly 
_does not_ say who will be good or bad.

(my 2p)

- Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: David Low [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 24 June 2004 13:50
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] OT: Outsourcing to India or elsewhere


Tried and failed, Paul - I worked on a site where the CF development was farmed out to Pakistan, completely hashed up, and then returned to me for emergency repairs - with �10,000 gone by that point. The developers disappeared for days on end, the code had no comments so as to pick it apart later, there was no real structure to it all and in the end, it was rebuilt from scratch. I've heard similar horror stories from people who outsourced Java and C++ projects to the near East countries - yet to hear of a success...


Also worked with a developer from Pakistan who used to work on sub-contracted projects like this, then came over to the UK to earn the "proper rate". James from Imajica might bear this one out - we spent possibly 4 or 5 months repairing some of the work he left behind.

Only good foreign development I've come across was from South Africa - very responsive, working in the same time zone as us, and good but speedy coding.

Wouldn't go near Pakistan again!

David


Paul Johnston wrote:



Has anyone successfully outsourced any projects to India (or elsewhere)? I have heard some good things, but was wondering if there were any stories ppl could share (keeping companies secret of course unless they're pants). Doesn't seem like many companies do CF though!

The reason being I am looking into it for a friend who doesn't want to pay my rates (erm...) but does want to have a fully featured website custom built for him. He's willing to source it through me though so I can take a cut, but also so I can provide the tech support for the site (instead of it being somewhere else in world).

Paul











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