On Fri, Jul 12, 2019 at 7:20 AM Neal Gompa <ngomp...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 12, 2019 at 10:11 AM Colin Walters <walt...@verbum.org> wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > I think the Common's use of Slack is not a good match for "support". > > Requiring an invitation is also an impediment to quickly asking questions. > > Further Slack is proprietary, and also any discussion there won't be easily > > found by Google. > > > > I agree here. I deeply dislike that we use Slack for that. And Slack > is terrible for a11y, too. > > > On the other hand we have these mailing lists, which are fine but they're > > traditional mailing lists with all the tradeoffs there. > > > > I propose we shut down the user@ and dev@ lists and deploy a Discourse > > instance, which is what the cool kids ;) are doing: > > https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/ > > http://internals.rust-lang.org/ > > etc. > > > > Discourse is IMO really nice because for people who want a mailing list it > > can act like that, but for people who both want a modern web UI and most > > importantly just want to drop in occasionally and not be committed to > > receiving a stream of email, it works a lot better. Also importantly to me > > it's FOSS. > > > > I would also personally lean towards not using Slack too but I see that as > > a separate discussion - it's real time, and that's a distinct thing from > > discourse. If we get a lot of momentum in our Discourse though over Slack > > we can consider what to do later. > > > > I would rather not see us move to Discourse for the mailing list > experience. I'd propose we upgrade to Mailman 3 with HyperKitty, as > other communities around us have done. The oVirt, Ceph, and Podman > communities already use it.
My team in Red Hat's Open Source Program Office hosts Mailman 3 for oVirt, Podman and other projects. We'd be happy to help with hosting and migration if the OpenShift community wants to move to Mailman 3 and Hyperkitty. Jason > > Fedora didn't shut down its users@ list when it deployed > discussions.fp.o. And adoption of Discourse in Fedora hasn't been very > high outside of the Silverblue/CoreOS bubble. > > I'm not opposed to the idea of having an additional channel for user > support with Discourse on okd.io, though. > > > > -- > 真実はいつも一つ！/ Always, there's only one truth! > > _______________________________________________ > dev mailing list > dev@lists.openshift.redhat.com > http://lists.openshift.redhat.com/openshiftmm/listinfo/dev _______________________________________________ dev mailing list dev@lists.openshift.redhat.com http://lists.openshift.redhat.com/openshiftmm/listinfo/dev
