On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 9:46 AM, Jason van Zyl <[email protected]> wrote:
> There have been companies who have submitted bodies of code to Apache, and > there have been projects consisting of individuals submitting bodies of > code. We're not doing anything new. The Apache Incubator can be used for > this case and there are likely people there who have dealt with this case > and have seen it. There will also be people from the legal groups on the > incubator mailings lists and we can just do what the last project did. I > don't think we're unique here. > I used to be the chair of the incubator, and I never saw any signs of intelligent live on this subject during my entire tenure. However, my backoff advice was always: get an inventory, then get advice based on the inventory. If you want to get the advice from general@incubator, go right ahead. > > On Sep 9, 2014, at 9:30 AM, Benson Margulies <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 9:15 AM, Jason van Zyl <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> I don't think we should attempt to make up new procedures here. Just use > >> the standard Apache Incubation process if you're going to move a body of > >> code. I don't think it will take long and then all the bases are covered > >> and everyone else there can inspect the procedure. > >> > > > > It does not apply, because there is no single owner to sign off on it. So > > one way or the other, we are adapting. At this point, I'd strongly advise > > seeking input from VP, Legal. > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> On Sep 9, 2014, at 9:08 AM, Stephen Connolly < > >> [email protected]> wrote: > >> > >>> On 9 September 2014 14:01, Jason van Zyl <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> > >>>> On Sep 9, 2014, at 8:54 AM, Stefan Bodewig <[email protected]> > wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> When every contributors so by him/herself, sure. "submitted by YOU". > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> Same meaning if Hervé pushed the repo in here and we've all agreed. > >>> > >>> > >>> The key bit is "we've all agreed" where the "we" is the Plexus > >> contributors > >>> and the "agreed" is some documentation that the contributors agreed, > >> which > >>> is what the mail would be > >>> > >>> > >>>> Again, this is how the incubation process works to move a body of code > >> to > >>>> Apache. Everyone doesn't re-commit their code to satisfy the literal > >> "YOU" > >>>> in the CLA. Whatever the process is for incubation insofar as legal > >>>> requirements we should meet. The last time I was involved with this > >> these > >>>> were CLAs applied to the body of code migrated from a foreign > >> repository to > >>>> Apache. > >>>> > >>>>> Stefan > >>>>> > >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> Thanks, > >>>> > >>>> Jason > >>>> > >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------- > >>>> Jason van Zyl > >>>> Founder, Apache Maven > >>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl > >>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io > >>>> --------------------------------------------------------- > >>>> > >>>> Three people can keep a secret provided two of them are dead. > >>>> > >>>> -- Benjamin Franklin > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >> > >> Thanks, > >> > >> Jason > >> > >> ---------------------------------------------------------- > >> Jason van Zyl > >> Founder, Apache Maven > >> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl > >> http://twitter.com/takari_io > >> --------------------------------------------------------- > >> > >> believe nothing, no matter where you read it, > >> or who has said it, > >> not even if i have said it, > >> unless it agrees with your own reason > >> and your own common sense. > >> > >> -- Buddha > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Thanks, > > Jason > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Jason van Zyl > Founder, Apache Maven > http://twitter.com/jvanzyl > http://twitter.com/takari_io > --------------------------------------------------------- > > People develop abstractions by generalizing from concrete examples. > Every attempt to determine the correct abstraction on paper without > actually developing a running system is doomed to failure. No one > is that smart. A framework is a resuable design, so you develop it by > looking at the things it is supposed to be a design of. The more examples > you look at, the more general your framework will be. > > -- Ralph Johnson & Don Roberts, Patterns for Evolving Frameworks > > > > > > > > > >
