I'll leave to you guys. My only suggestion is to make a submission package that contains:
- references to the repos - userids those with CLAs on file - userids of new CLAs along with those CLAs Send out an email with a pointer to a repo with the same perms as Plexus where people can add their userid if they have a CLA on file, and a directory for new CLAs we may get. I'm not sure how active the Plexus mailing list is but we can send a message there and here. Then Hervé can collect it all together and see what discrepancies there are and how we want to deal with them. Then you can ask legal if what is not covered by CLAs is acceptable to submit. If it's ok, great, if not we can start trying to expunge. On Sep 9, 2014, at 9:57 AM, Benson Margulies <[email protected]> wrote: > On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 9:46 AM, Jason van Zyl <[email protected]> wrote: > >> There have been companies who have submitted bodies of code to Apache, and >> there have been projects consisting of individuals submitting bodies of >> code. We're not doing anything new. The Apache Incubator can be used for >> this case and there are likely people there who have dealt with this case >> and have seen it. There will also be people from the legal groups on the >> incubator mailings lists and we can just do what the last project did. I >> don't think we're unique here. >> > > I used to be the chair of the incubator, and I never saw any signs of > intelligent live on this subject during my entire tenure. However, my > backoff advice was always: get an inventory, then get advice based on the > inventory. If you want to get the advice from general@incubator, go right > ahead. > > >> >> On Sep 9, 2014, at 9:30 AM, Benson Margulies <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 9:15 AM, Jason van Zyl <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> I don't think we should attempt to make up new procedures here. Just use >>>> the standard Apache Incubation process if you're going to move a body of >>>> code. I don't think it will take long and then all the bases are covered >>>> and everyone else there can inspect the procedure. >>>> >>> >>> It does not apply, because there is no single owner to sign off on it. So >>> one way or the other, we are adapting. At this point, I'd strongly advise >>> seeking input from VP, Legal. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> >>>> On Sep 9, 2014, at 9:08 AM, Stephen Connolly < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 9 September 2014 14:01, Jason van Zyl <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On Sep 9, 2014, at 8:54 AM, Stefan Bodewig <[email protected]> >> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> When every contributors so by him/herself, sure. "submitted by YOU". >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Same meaning if Hervé pushed the repo in here and we've all agreed. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The key bit is "we've all agreed" where the "we" is the Plexus >>>> contributors >>>>> and the "agreed" is some documentation that the contributors agreed, >>>> which >>>>> is what the mail would be >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Again, this is how the incubation process works to move a body of code >>>> to >>>>>> Apache. Everyone doesn't re-commit their code to satisfy the literal >>>> "YOU" >>>>>> in the CLA. Whatever the process is for incubation insofar as legal >>>>>> requirements we should meet. The last time I was involved with this >>>> these >>>>>> were CLAs applied to the body of code migrated from a foreign >>>> repository to >>>>>> Apache. >>>>>> >>>>>>> Stefan >>>>>>> >>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] >>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> >>>>>> Jason >>>>>> >>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> Jason van Zyl >>>>>> Founder, Apache Maven >>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl >>>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io >>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> >>>>>> Three people can keep a secret provided two of them are dead. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- Benjamin Franklin >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Jason >>>> >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------- >>>> Jason van Zyl >>>> Founder, Apache Maven >>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl >>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io >>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> believe nothing, no matter where you read it, >>>> or who has said it, >>>> not even if i have said it, >>>> unless it agrees with your own reason >>>> and your own common sense. >>>> >>>> -- Buddha >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Jason >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------- >> Jason van Zyl >> Founder, Apache Maven >> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl >> http://twitter.com/takari_io >> --------------------------------------------------------- >> >> People develop abstractions by generalizing from concrete examples. >> Every attempt to determine the correct abstraction on paper without >> actually developing a running system is doomed to failure. No one >> is that smart. A framework is a resuable design, so you develop it by >> looking at the things it is supposed to be a design of. The more examples >> you look at, the more general your framework will be. >> >> -- Ralph Johnson & Don Roberts, Patterns for Evolving Frameworks >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Thanks, Jason ---------------------------------------------------------- Jason van Zyl Founder, Apache Maven http://twitter.com/jvanzyl http://twitter.com/takari_io ---------------------------------------------------------
