He claims that Log4j 2 isn’t popular enough.  The real reason, as you probably 
know, is that Jason seriously dislikes me, although he would never actually say 
that as his reason.

Ralph

> On Jan 7, 2016, at 10:56 AM, Jason van Zyl <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
>> On Jan 7, 2016, at 11:43 AM, Arnaud Héritier <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> No problem.
>> Let's do what you want (like always).
> 
> Not that I want it, but that’s certainly never been the case. The project 
> would most definitely look different if it were. If there is agreement on 
> this I’ll be surprised. So...
> 
> If we can make it such that the .mvn/extensions.xml mechanism work for 
> logging that would be best but it won’t right now because Igor discovered in 
> his journeys that SLF4J can only be initialized once. And by the time the 
> extensions load it’s too late. If we can either adjust the CLI such that we 
> delay the initialization until after extensions load and live with some 
> STDOUT hackery, or ask the SLF4J folks if they can accommodate our case and 
> have some lazy initialization or allowable mutation. Then it just doesn’t 
> matter and anyone can cleanly use what they wish. Then we’ll likely have to 
> figure out global user extensions but that’s ok.
> 
>> I agree we are loosing our time.
>> 
>> Have a good day.
>> 
>> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Jason
> 
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> http://twitter.com/takari_io
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> No one is fanatically shouting that the sun is going to rise tomorrow.
> They know it is going to rise tomorrow. When people are fanatically
> dedicated to political or religious faiths or any other kind of 
> dogmas or goals, it's always because these dogmas or
> goals are in doubt.
> 
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