No problem. Let's do what you want (like always). I agree we are loosing our time.
Have a good day. On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 4:26 PM, Jason van Zyl <[email protected]> wrote: > No, I don’t that useful. If it’s an extensions then it can be activated > using the .mvn/extensions.xml and downloaded on demand. I think for Maven > 4.x we just bite the bullet and put Logback in the distribution. Igor and I > have done most of the work in the last while and have implementations for > Logback, and when I drop the 4.x changes I will have done a ton of work and > I’d just like to end the discussion and put Logback in 4.x. > > If we disagree then let’s resolve never to discuss this again because it’s > a waste of time. We’ll just leave the simple implementation in there as > it’s probably fine for 99% of people. What Igor suggests I think is a fine > compromise. The optional extensions can be built in the main tree so that > we know they work, but not distributed by default. If someone wants to use > them they can enable them using the .mvn/extensions.xml mechanism. I can > live with optional extensions in the tree, but I’ll never agree to the > default implementation being Log4J2. > > > On Jan 7, 2016, at 9:01 AM, Arnaud Héritier <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > And couldn't we have some optional extensions in the distribution ? > > Not activated by default but that users can easily activate by moving a > jar > > ? > > > > On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 2:51 PM, Jason van Zyl <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> And I liked this extension and wanted it! I only thought it > inappropriate > >> because the deps were not there by default in the core, and that we said > >> we’d discuss it. Even though I think by virtue of the fact you did the > work > >> and have consistently done work in the core that you should really be > able > >> to make the change. I was just trying to be consistent with what we said > >> we’d do. > >> > >>> On Jan 6, 2016, at 10:26 PM, Igor Fedorenko <[email protected]> > wrote: > >>> > >>> It is already possible to implement advanced logging as an extension. > >>> This was what I did when my offer to provide multi-threaded logging > >>> support in the core was turned down on this list few months ago. So at > >>> this point the discussion/decision is purely political. > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Regards, > >>> Igor > >>> > >>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016, at 08:53 PM, Nick Stolwijk wrote: > >>>> This isn't a mail to convince anyone between Log4J2 or Logback. > >>>> > >>>> I have updated my Maven installation with Log4J2, instead of the > >> default, > >>>> which worked fine. > >>>> > >>>> I missed one thing and I hope with different log implementations we > >> still > >>>> could do this "right". Maven has a nice command line parameter to give > >>>> out > >>>> extra logging, the "-X" parameter. With the Log4J2 in place, this > >> logging > >>>> parameter didn't work. I have to change the logging configuration to > >>>> include DEBUG logging. Is there a way to print out the logging, > without > >>>> regard to the logging framework, to include the debug information when > >>>> given the "-X" parameter? > >>>> > >>>> I think it is very valuable to get extra logging without touching any > >>>> configuration files. > >>>> > >>>> With regards, > >>>> > >>>> Nick Stolwijk > >>>> > >>>> ~~~ Try to leave this world a little better than you found it and, > when > >>>> your turn comes to die, you can die happy in feeling that at any rate > >> you > >>>> have not wasted your time but have done your best ~~~ > >>>> > >>>> Lord Baden-Powell > >>>> > >>>> On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 1:27 AM, Jason van Zyl <[email protected]> > wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> I’ve no issue with the fix to make any implementation to work, just > the > >>>>> merging of the log4j2 branch in general. > >>>>> > >>>>>> On Jan 6, 2016, at 7:20 PM, Ralph Goers <[email protected] > > > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Jason, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I really don’t care which logging framework Maven uses. There isn’t > >>>>> going to be much difference between Logback and Log4j 2 in a batch > >> process > >>>>> like Maven, although asynchronous loggers might speed up larger > builds > >>>>> somewhat. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> However, these comparisons are still incorrect. Log4j is using the > >> ASF’s > >>>>> git repository and hasn’t really integrated pull requests from github > >> so > >>>>> you are comparing apples and oranges. If you look at the changes.xml > >> file > >>>>> you will see 250 due-to attributions, some of which include > committers > >> but > >>>>> most of which are not. Just in the latest release, 2.5, there were > >>>>> contributions from 13 individuals outside of the ASF and in the 2.4 > >> release > >>>>> there were contributions from more than 20. If Logback has only had > >>>>> contributions from 70+ non-committers since they moved to git, then > >> Log4j > >>>>> is easily winning that metric. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> That said, I don’t use Maven for how cool its logging framework is. > >>>>> However, Gary’s original complaint about an unsupported SLF4J binding > >> seems > >>>>> like it should be addressed. Why can’t a user use their own custom > >> SLF4J > >>>>> implementation? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Ralph > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Jan 6, 2016, at 3:49 PM, Jason van Zyl <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On Jan 6, 2016, at 5:46 PM, Paul Benedict <[email protected] > >>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Jason, I am sorry but to disagree with you. Your statistics are > >> still > >>>>> not > >>>>>>>> telling a full story. I can glance at the commit graphs of these > 76 > >>>>> logback > >>>>>>>> contributors rather quickly to see really how "diverse" this > >> community > >>>>> is. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> * 35 (~45%) only ever made 1 contribution > >>>>>>>> * 18 (~25%) have only ever made 2 contributions > >>>>>>>> * 16 (~20%) have between 3-10 contributions. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> This is still awesome. I would love to have 35 contributors making > >> one > >>>>> change. It all adds up. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> That leaves only 7 logback contributors (~10%) who actually do > >>>>> something. > >>>>>>>> And of those 7, only 4 committed something in 2015 ... and Cecki > is > >> the > >>>>>>>> leader by far. It's clearly a very visible one man show with > sparse > >>>>>>>> contributions from others. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Based on these numbers, I think Log4J2 has the better community > >>>>> involvement. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Everyone will interpret numbers as they wish but it’s a simple > thing > >>>>> even to make one change in an open source project. 99% of people > never > >> do > >>>>> so to have that number of people make one or two changes is a > >> significant > >>>>> thing. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Cheers, > >>>>>>>> Paul > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 4:31 PM, Jason van Zyl <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> A contributor on that page is not a comparison of committers vs > >> not. > >>>>>>>>> People who have made pull requests to Maven are listed as > >>>>> contributors. > >>>>>>>>> Just as they would for Log4J2. A measure, albeit one, of the > >> overall > >>>>>>>>> diversity of contribution. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> On Jan 6, 2016, at 5:27 PM, Paul Benedict <[email protected] > > > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> I am writing regarding this statement: "Ceki may do more commits > >> but > >>>>> it’s > >>>>>>>>>> certainly not a one man show. 76 contributors for Logback and 8 > >>>>>>>>>> contributors for Log4J2." > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> The numbers in themselves do not tell a full story. It's in > >>>>> appropriate > >>>>>>>>> to > >>>>>>>>>> conclude that since 76 > 8, therefore logback is a better > choice. > >>>>> The 8 > >>>>>>>>>> contributors in Log4J2 have been voted in according to Apache > >> bylaws. > >>>>>>>>>> Conversely, there aren't any bylaws for logback; the logback > >> Github > >>>>>>>>> project > >>>>>>>>>> owner can freely grant commit privileges at will ... and > >> evidently, > >>>>> they > >>>>>>>>>> do! So the bar for committer rights is much (much) lower than at > >>>>> Apache. > >>>>>>>>> I > >>>>>>>>>> don't think the above comparison is fair toward log4j2. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Cheers, > >>>>>>>>>> Paul > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 4:09 PM, Jason van Zyl <[email protected]> > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 6, 2016, at 12:25 PM, Arnaud Héritier < > >> [email protected]> > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> great, more constructive feedback :-) > >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Jason > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Both projects are well known and widely used even if log4j v2 > is > >>>>>>>>> younger > >>>>>>>>>>>> with less downloads such figures are not really representative > >>>>> with all > >>>>>>>>>>>> caches/repositories managers I think. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> I don’t have a single peer that uses Log4j2 and that’s > important > >> to > >>>>> me. > >>>>>>>>> I > >>>>>>>>>>> do not believe Log4J2 is well known or widely use. I think 3 > >> years > >>>>> of > >>>>>>>>>>> releases is fairly representative in that Logback is getting > >> close > >>>>> to > >>>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>>> Log4J incoming edge count and if you remove all the incoming > >> edges > >>>>> from > >>>>>>>>>>> Apache there are not a lot of users. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> About logback vs log4j I have really no real preference > >> technically > >>>>>>>>>>>> speaking (I had both branches working in the past and used > them > >> a > >>>>> lot > >>>>>>>>> in > >>>>>>>>>>> my > >>>>>>>>>>>> professional life - > >>>>> http://www.aheritier.net/united-colors-of-maven/). > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> In term of community, Log4J is in our apache community and we > >> have > >>>>> few > >>>>>>>>>>>> active committers arround. On Logback side even if I really > >>>>> appreciate > >>>>>>>>>>> Ceki > >>>>>>>>>>>> I'm always afraid about this one-man show project. (and Ceki > >> isn't > >>>>>>>>>>> perfect > >>>>>>>>>>>> too when we see the nightmare of slf4j-api 1.5+ > >> incompatibilities > >>>>> we > >>>>>>>>>>> always > >>>>>>>>>>>> have in 2016 !!). > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Ceki may do more commits but it’s certainly not a one man show. > >> 76 > >>>>>>>>>>> contributors for Logback and 8 contributors for Log4J2. It’s > >> stable > >>>>> and > >>>>>>>>>>> mature at this point with 54 releases versus 33 for Log4J2. I > >> don’t > >>>>>>>>> think > >>>>>>>>>>> any person responsible for picking a package for logging would > >> get > >>>>> much > >>>>>>>>>>> support in their organization for Log4J2, as the data would > >>>>> suggest. I > >>>>>>>>>>> think with few contributors and usage it would likely be > deemed a > >>>>> less > >>>>>>>>> wise > >>>>>>>>>>> choice than Logback and possibly a risk. There are also lots of > >>>>> Apache > >>>>>>>>>>> projects that use Logback. I think pragmatism is a factor in > all > >> the > >>>>>>>>> other > >>>>>>>>>>> projects at Apache who selected Logback. Being at Apache > >> obviously > >>>>>>>>> wasn’t > >>>>>>>>>>> the determining criterion and it shouldn’t be. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> I agree that we are just talking about a logging > implementation > >>>>> but you > >>>>>>>>>>> saw > >>>>>>>>>>>> what it gave for eclipse/aether …. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> I’m not sure what your point is here. No one worked on any of > the > >>>>> parts, > >>>>>>>>>>> ever, whether here or at Eclipse. I doubt anyone will work on > it > >>>>> when it > >>>>>>>>>>> comes back. So I’m not sure what analogy you’re trying to make. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> I'm clearly not enough involved enough in the project to try > to > >>>>>>>>> convince > >>>>>>>>>>>> anyone about a choice to do but I can just say that not > having a > >>>>>>>>>>> colorized > >>>>>>>>>>>> console in 2016 is .... irritating. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> For the problem reported by Gary I think that applying the fix > >> in > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > maven-embedder/src/main/resources/META-INF/maven/slf4j-configuration.properties > >>>>>>>>>>>> ( > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > https://github.com/apache/maven/commit/8cddea291c279130d437bcdf3337f16296558530 > >>>>>>>>>>>> ) > >>>>>>>>>>>> is safe to be back-ported in master. It is just that > >>>>>>>>>>>> org.slf4j.helpers.Log4jLoggerFactorywas for Log4J 1 AFAIU and > >> now > >>>>> that > >>>>>>>>>>>> Log4J2 is release/stabilized there is a new one : > >>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.logging.slf4j.Log4jLoggerFactory > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> If I asked Ceki for help I’d get it immediately also. Who isn’t > >>>>> going to > >>>>>>>>>>> help there to get their library bundled with Maven? > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> For the replacement of the implementation and activate colors > I > >>>>> prefer > >>>>>>>>> to > >>>>>>>>>>>> let active committers decide of what they are doing (I imagine > >>>>> that for > >>>>>>>>>>> any > >>>>>>>>>>>> choice they are doing it doesn't avoid you to use another one > in > >>>>> your > >>>>>>>>> own > >>>>>>>>>>>> distribution ? > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> I would prefer log4j2 but clearly I never merged it because of > >> the > >>>>>>>>> slf4j > >>>>>>>>>>>> conflict that I don't understand (but I didn't spend a lot of > >> time > >>>>> on > >>>>>>>>> it) > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> To me the most important factor is usage, of course you need > some > >>>>>>>>>>> threshold of developers so that people are working on it but > even > >>>>> there > >>>>>>>>> I’d > >>>>>>>>>>> say it’s pretty sparse in Log4J2. But with widespread usage > comes > >>>>>>>>>>> examination, issue submissions, pull requests and ultimately > more > >>>>> people > >>>>>>>>>>> that contribute and that’s clearly the case with Logback. I > don’t > >>>>> see > >>>>>>>>> how > >>>>>>>>>>> you can logically refute that and see Log4J2 a better choice > >>>>> because of > >>>>>>>>>>> what organization it’s developed within? Logback has a > community > >> it > >>>>> just > >>>>>>>>>>> doesn’t happen to be here, and Ceki's not some random guy. He > >> also > >>>>> has a > >>>>>>>>>>> long track record of open source dedication and contribution. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 5:46 PM, Jason van Zyl < > [email protected]> > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> These are the numbers I arrived at, happy to run them with > >>>>> different > >>>>>>>>>>>>> coordinates but thought these were representative: > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> gremlin> g.V('vc', 'log4j:log4j').inE.count() > >>>>>>>>>>>>> ==>84570 > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> gremlin> g.V('vc', > >> 'ch.qos.logback:logback-classic').inE.count() > >>>>>>>>>>>>> ==>62389 > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> gremlin> g.V('vc', > >>>>> 'org.apache.logging.log4j:log4j-core').inE.count() > >>>>>>>>>>>>> ==>3134 > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> These are incoming edges across all versions of said > >> coordinate. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 6, 2016, at 11:15 AM, Jason van Zyl <[email protected] > > > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> As we said previously when the the question arose again > there > >>>>> would > >>>>>>>>> be > >>>>>>>>>>> a > >>>>>>>>>>>>> discussion. You may not remember, but I expect there to be a > >>>>>>>>> discussion. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have built a graph of Maven Central to analyze the rank > >> (count > >>>>> of > >>>>>>>>> all > >>>>>>>>>>>>> incoming edges) for Log4J2 and Logback and it is clear from > >> those > >>>>>>>>>>> numbers > >>>>>>>>>>>>> that everyone has gone from Log4J to Logback. What has > >> happened, I > >>>>>>>>>>> believe > >>>>>>>>>>>>> from the numbers, is that the community followed the founder > of > >>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>>> project > >>>>>>>>>>>>> and not the owner project in pretty much the exact same way > >> users > >>>>> went > >>>>>>>>>>> with > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Jenkins and not Hudson. Anyone is happy to take the graph and > >>>>> verify > >>>>>>>>>>> this > >>>>>>>>>>>>> themselves, or generate their own data from the machine that > is > >>>>>>>>> housing > >>>>>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>>>>> copy of Maven Central at Google. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Additionally Igor has an implementation for logging during > >>>>> concurrent > >>>>>>>>>>>>> builds based on Logback that I would really like to use, and > >> the > >>>>> color > >>>>>>>>>>>>> logging is also easy with Logback. I do not want to use > >> something > >>>>> that > >>>>>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>>>>> community at large has not adopted. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Again, anyone is welcome to the code and/or the data if they > >>>>> want to > >>>>>>>>>>>>> verify this themselves. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I also am not interested in a debate so if we disagree then > >> just > >>>>>>>>> leave > >>>>>>>>>>>>> the simple implementation in place. I’m not philosophically > >>>>> motivated > >>>>>>>>>>> much > >>>>>>>>>>>>> here in these discussions but I’m vehemently opposed to > >>>>> integrating > >>>>>>>>>>> Log4J2. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 6, 2016, at 7:55 AM, Arnaud Héritier < > >>>>> [email protected]> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks for this valuable comment Jason :( > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 1:46 PM, Jason van Zyl < > >> [email protected]> > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -1 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do not merge this branch. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 6, 2016, at 4:05 AM, Tibor Digana < > >>>>> [email protected]> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Arnaud, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you plan a Release Version to merge this branch o > >> master in > >>>>>>>>>>> Maven? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 7:18 AM, Arnaud Héritier [via > >> Maven] < > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just because only 2.4 was available when I updated this > >>>>> feature > >>>>>>>>>>>>> branch > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> few > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> months ago. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Le mardi 5 janvier 2016, Gary Gregory <[hidden email] > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http:// > /user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=5857870&i=0>> > >> a > >>>>>>>>> écrit : > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Arnaud, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for the update. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why not update the Log4j 2 dep from 2.4 to 2.5? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gary > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 2:46 PM, Arnaud Héritier > <[hidden > >>>>> email] > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http:///user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=5857870&i=1> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Gary, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I fixed this in the branch : > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > https://github.com/apache/maven/commits/slf4j-log4j2.4 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The fix is in > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > maven-embedder/src/main/resources/META-INF/maven/slf4j-configuration.properties > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ( > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > https://github.com/apache/maven/commit/8cddea291c279130d437bcdf3337f16296558530 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ) > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is the update I did after my old blog post : > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.aheritier.net/united-colors-of-maven/ > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BR > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 25, 2015 at 4:09 PM, Gary Gregory <[hidden > >>>>> email] > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http:///user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=5857870&i=2> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi All, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Happy Holidays. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can the next version of Maven be rid of this warning: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [WARN] The SLF4J binding actually used is not > >> supported by > >>>>>>>>>>> Maven: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.logging.slf4j.Log4jLoggerFactory > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [WARN] Maven supported bindings are: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [WARN] (from > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > jar:file:/E:/Java/apache-maven-3.3.9/bin/../lib/maven-embedder-3.3.9.jar!/META-INF/maven/slf4j-configuration.properties) > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - ch.qos.logback.classic.LoggerContext > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - org.slf4j.helpers.Log4jLoggerFactory > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - org.slf4j.impl.SimpleLoggerFactory > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is there a step I am missing to use Log4j 2 cleanly? > My > >>>>> steps > >>>>>>>>>>> are > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> here: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> https://garygregory.wordpress.com/2015/03/23/watch-maven-in-color/ > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> E-Mail: [hidden email] > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http:///user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=5857870&i=3> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | [hidden > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> email] <http:// > >>>>> /user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=5857870&i=4> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 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>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io > >>>>>>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> {script:nopre:"/Users/jvanzyl/signature/signature.sh"} > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > >>>>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>>>>> ----- > >>>>>>>>>>>> Arnaud Héritier > >>>>>>>>>>>> http://aheritier.net > >>>>>>>>>>>> Mail/GTalk: aheritier AT gmail DOT com > >>>>>>>>>>>> Twitter/Skype : aheritier > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Jason > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>>>>>>>> Jason van Zyl > >>>>>>>>>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven > >>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl > >>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io > >>>>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> {script:nopre:"/Users/jvanzyl/signature/signature.sh"} > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > >>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Thanks, > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Jason > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>>>>>> Jason van Zyl > >>>>>>>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven > >>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl > >>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io > >>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> {script:nopre:"/Users/jvanzyl/signature/signature.sh"} > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >> 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