And couldn't we have some optional extensions in the distribution ? Not activated by default but that users can easily activate by moving a jar ?
On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 2:51 PM, Jason van Zyl <ja...@takari.io> wrote: > And I liked this extension and wanted it! I only thought it inappropriate > because the deps were not there by default in the core, and that we said > we’d discuss it. Even though I think by virtue of the fact you did the work > and have consistently done work in the core that you should really be able > to make the change. I was just trying to be consistent with what we said > we’d do. > > > On Jan 6, 2016, at 10:26 PM, Igor Fedorenko <i...@ifedorenko.com> wrote: > > > > It is already possible to implement advanced logging as an extension. > > This was what I did when my offer to provide multi-threaded logging > > support in the core was turned down on this list few months ago. So at > > this point the discussion/decision is purely political. > > > > -- > > Regards, > > Igor > > > > On Wed, Jan 6, 2016, at 08:53 PM, Nick Stolwijk wrote: > >> This isn't a mail to convince anyone between Log4J2 or Logback. > >> > >> I have updated my Maven installation with Log4J2, instead of the > default, > >> which worked fine. > >> > >> I missed one thing and I hope with different log implementations we > still > >> could do this "right". Maven has a nice command line parameter to give > >> out > >> extra logging, the "-X" parameter. With the Log4J2 in place, this > logging > >> parameter didn't work. I have to change the logging configuration to > >> include DEBUG logging. Is there a way to print out the logging, without > >> regard to the logging framework, to include the debug information when > >> given the "-X" parameter? > >> > >> I think it is very valuable to get extra logging without touching any > >> configuration files. > >> > >> With regards, > >> > >> Nick Stolwijk > >> > >> ~~~ Try to leave this world a little better than you found it and, when > >> your turn comes to die, you can die happy in feeling that at any rate > you > >> have not wasted your time but have done your best ~~~ > >> > >> Lord Baden-Powell > >> > >> On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 1:27 AM, Jason van Zyl <ja...@takari.io> wrote: > >> > >>> I’ve no issue with the fix to make any implementation to work, just the > >>> merging of the log4j2 branch in general. > >>> > >>>> On Jan 6, 2016, at 7:20 PM, Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com> > >>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Jason, > >>>> > >>>> I really don’t care which logging framework Maven uses. There isn’t > >>> going to be much difference between Logback and Log4j 2 in a batch > process > >>> like Maven, although asynchronous loggers might speed up larger builds > >>> somewhat. > >>>> > >>>> However, these comparisons are still incorrect. Log4j is using the > ASF’s > >>> git repository and hasn’t really integrated pull requests from github > so > >>> you are comparing apples and oranges. If you look at the changes.xml > file > >>> you will see 250 due-to attributions, some of which include committers > but > >>> most of which are not. Just in the latest release, 2.5, there were > >>> contributions from 13 individuals outside of the ASF and in the 2.4 > release > >>> there were contributions from more than 20. If Logback has only had > >>> contributions from 70+ non-committers since they moved to git, then > Log4j > >>> is easily winning that metric. > >>>> > >>>> That said, I don’t use Maven for how cool its logging framework is. > >>> However, Gary’s original complaint about an unsupported SLF4J binding > seems > >>> like it should be addressed. Why can’t a user use their own custom > SLF4J > >>> implementation? > >>>> > >>>> Ralph > >>>> > >>>>> On Jan 6, 2016, at 3:49 PM, Jason van Zyl <ja...@takari.io> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Jan 6, 2016, at 5:46 PM, Paul Benedict <pbened...@apache.org > >>> <mailto:pbened...@apache.org>> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Jason, I am sorry but to disagree with you. Your statistics are > still > >>> not > >>>>>> telling a full story. I can glance at the commit graphs of these 76 > >>> logback > >>>>>> contributors rather quickly to see really how "diverse" this > community > >>> is. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> * 35 (~45%) only ever made 1 contribution > >>>>>> * 18 (~25%) have only ever made 2 contributions > >>>>>> * 16 (~20%) have between 3-10 contributions. > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> This is still awesome. I would love to have 35 contributors making > one > >>> change. It all adds up. > >>>>> > >>>>>> That leaves only 7 logback contributors (~10%) who actually do > >>> something. > >>>>>> And of those 7, only 4 committed something in 2015 ... and Cecki is > the > >>>>>> leader by far. It's clearly a very visible one man show with sparse > >>>>>> contributions from others. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Based on these numbers, I think Log4J2 has the better community > >>> involvement. > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Everyone will interpret numbers as they wish but it’s a simple thing > >>> even to make one change in an open source project. 99% of people never > do > >>> so to have that number of people make one or two changes is a > significant > >>> thing. > >>>>> > >>>>>> Cheers, > >>>>>> Paul > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 4:31 PM, Jason van Zyl <ja...@takari.io> > wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> A contributor on that page is not a comparison of committers vs > not. > >>>>>>> People who have made pull requests to Maven are listed as > >>> contributors. > >>>>>>> Just as they would for Log4J2. A measure, albeit one, of the > overall > >>>>>>> diversity of contribution. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On Jan 6, 2016, at 5:27 PM, Paul Benedict <pbened...@apache.org> > >>> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I am writing regarding this statement: "Ceki may do more commits > but > >>> it’s > >>>>>>>> certainly not a one man show. 76 contributors for Logback and 8 > >>>>>>>> contributors for Log4J2." > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> The numbers in themselves do not tell a full story. It's in > >>> appropriate > >>>>>>> to > >>>>>>>> conclude that since 76 > 8, therefore logback is a better choice. > >>> The 8 > >>>>>>>> contributors in Log4J2 have been voted in according to Apache > bylaws. > >>>>>>>> Conversely, there aren't any bylaws for logback; the logback > Github > >>>>>>> project > >>>>>>>> owner can freely grant commit privileges at will ... and > evidently, > >>> they > >>>>>>>> do! So the bar for committer rights is much (much) lower than at > >>> Apache. > >>>>>>> I > >>>>>>>> don't think the above comparison is fair toward log4j2. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Cheers, > >>>>>>>> Paul > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 4:09 PM, Jason van Zyl <ja...@takari.io> > >>> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> On Jan 6, 2016, at 12:25 PM, Arnaud Héritier < > aherit...@gmail.com> > >>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> great, more constructive feedback :-) > >>>>>>>>>> Thanks Jason > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Both projects are well known and widely used even if log4j v2 is > >>>>>>> younger > >>>>>>>>>> with less downloads such figures are not really representative > >>> with all > >>>>>>>>>> caches/repositories managers I think. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> I don’t have a single peer that uses Log4j2 and that’s important > to > >>> me. > >>>>>>> I > >>>>>>>>> do not believe Log4J2 is well known or widely use. I think 3 > years > >>> of > >>>>>>>>> releases is fairly representative in that Logback is getting > close > >>> to > >>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>> Log4J incoming edge count and if you remove all the incoming > edges > >>> from > >>>>>>>>> Apache there are not a lot of users. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> About logback vs log4j I have really no real preference > technically > >>>>>>>>>> speaking (I had both branches working in the past and used them > a > >>> lot > >>>>>>> in > >>>>>>>>> my > >>>>>>>>>> professional life - > >>> http://www.aheritier.net/united-colors-of-maven/). > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> In term of community, Log4J is in our apache community and we > have > >>> few > >>>>>>>>>> active committers arround. On Logback side even if I really > >>> appreciate > >>>>>>>>> Ceki > >>>>>>>>>> I'm always afraid about this one-man show project. (and Ceki > isn't > >>>>>>>>> perfect > >>>>>>>>>> too when we see the nightmare of slf4j-api 1.5+ > incompatibilities > >>> we > >>>>>>>>> always > >>>>>>>>>> have in 2016 !!). > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Ceki may do more commits but it’s certainly not a one man show. > 76 > >>>>>>>>> contributors for Logback and 8 contributors for Log4J2. It’s > stable > >>> and > >>>>>>>>> mature at this point with 54 releases versus 33 for Log4J2. I > don’t > >>>>>>> think > >>>>>>>>> any person responsible for picking a package for logging would > get > >>> much > >>>>>>>>> support in their organization for Log4J2, as the data would > >>> suggest. I > >>>>>>>>> think with few contributors and usage it would likely be deemed a > >>> less > >>>>>>> wise > >>>>>>>>> choice than Logback and possibly a risk. There are also lots of > >>> Apache > >>>>>>>>> projects that use Logback. I think pragmatism is a factor in all > the > >>>>>>> other > >>>>>>>>> projects at Apache who selected Logback. Being at Apache > obviously > >>>>>>> wasn’t > >>>>>>>>> the determining criterion and it shouldn’t be. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> I agree that we are just talking about a logging implementation > >>> but you > >>>>>>>>> saw > >>>>>>>>>> what it gave for eclipse/aether …. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> I’m not sure what your point is here. No one worked on any of the > >>> parts, > >>>>>>>>> ever, whether here or at Eclipse. I doubt anyone will work on it > >>> when it > >>>>>>>>> comes back. So I’m not sure what analogy you’re trying to make. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> I'm clearly not enough involved enough in the project to try to > >>>>>>> convince > >>>>>>>>>> anyone about a choice to do but I can just say that not having a > >>>>>>>>> colorized > >>>>>>>>>> console in 2016 is .... irritating. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> For the problem reported by Gary I think that applying the fix > in > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>> > maven-embedder/src/main/resources/META-INF/maven/slf4j-configuration.properties > >>>>>>>>>> ( > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>> > https://github.com/apache/maven/commit/8cddea291c279130d437bcdf3337f16296558530 > >>>>>>>>>> ) > >>>>>>>>>> is safe to be back-ported in master. It is just that > >>>>>>>>>> org.slf4j.helpers.Log4jLoggerFactorywas for Log4J 1 AFAIU and > now > >>> that > >>>>>>>>>> Log4J2 is release/stabilized there is a new one : > >>>>>>>>>> org.apache.logging.slf4j.Log4jLoggerFactory > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> If I asked Ceki for help I’d get it immediately also. Who isn’t > >>> going to > >>>>>>>>> help there to get their library bundled with Maven? > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> For the replacement of the implementation and activate colors I > >>> prefer > >>>>>>> to > >>>>>>>>>> let active committers decide of what they are doing (I imagine > >>> that for > >>>>>>>>> any > >>>>>>>>>> choice they are doing it doesn't avoid you to use another one in > >>> your > >>>>>>> own > >>>>>>>>>> distribution ? > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> I would prefer log4j2 but clearly I never merged it because of > the > >>>>>>> slf4j > >>>>>>>>>> conflict that I don't understand (but I didn't spend a lot of > time > >>> on > >>>>>>> it) > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> To me the most important factor is usage, of course you need some > >>>>>>>>> threshold of developers so that people are working on it but even > >>> there > >>>>>>> I’d > >>>>>>>>> say it’s pretty sparse in Log4J2. But with widespread usage comes > >>>>>>>>> examination, issue submissions, pull requests and ultimately more > >>> people > >>>>>>>>> that contribute and that’s clearly the case with Logback. I don’t > >>> see > >>>>>>> how > >>>>>>>>> you can logically refute that and see Log4J2 a better choice > >>> because of > >>>>>>>>> what organization it’s developed within? Logback has a community > it > >>> just > >>>>>>>>> doesn’t happen to be here, and Ceki's not some random guy. He > also > >>> has a > >>>>>>>>> long track record of open source dedication and contribution. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Cheers > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 5:46 PM, Jason van Zyl <ja...@takari.io> > >>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> These are the numbers I arrived at, happy to run them with > >>> different > >>>>>>>>>>> coordinates but thought these were representative: > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> gremlin> g.V('vc', 'log4j:log4j').inE.count() > >>>>>>>>>>> ==>84570 > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> gremlin> g.V('vc', > 'ch.qos.logback:logback-classic').inE.count() > >>>>>>>>>>> ==>62389 > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> gremlin> g.V('vc', > >>> 'org.apache.logging.log4j:log4j-core').inE.count() > >>>>>>>>>>> ==>3134 > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> These are incoming edges across all versions of said > coordinate. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 6, 2016, at 11:15 AM, Jason van Zyl <ja...@takari.io> > >>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> As we said previously when the the question arose again there > >>> would > >>>>>>> be > >>>>>>>>> a > >>>>>>>>>>> discussion. You may not remember, but I expect there to be a > >>>>>>> discussion. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> I have built a graph of Maven Central to analyze the rank > (count > >>> of > >>>>>>> all > >>>>>>>>>>> incoming edges) for Log4J2 and Logback and it is clear from > those > >>>>>>>>> numbers > >>>>>>>>>>> that everyone has gone from Log4J to Logback. What has > happened, I > >>>>>>>>> believe > >>>>>>>>>>> from the numbers, is that the community followed the founder of > >>> the > >>>>>>>>> project > >>>>>>>>>>> and not the owner project in pretty much the exact same way > users > >>> went > >>>>>>>>> with > >>>>>>>>>>> Jenkins and not Hudson. Anyone is happy to take the graph and > >>> verify > >>>>>>>>> this > >>>>>>>>>>> themselves, or generate their own data from the machine that is > >>>>>>> housing > >>>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>>> copy of Maven Central at Google. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Additionally Igor has an implementation for logging during > >>> concurrent > >>>>>>>>>>> builds based on Logback that I would really like to use, and > the > >>> color > >>>>>>>>>>> logging is also easy with Logback. I do not want to use > something > >>> that > >>>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>>> community at large has not adopted. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Again, anyone is welcome to the code and/or the data if they > >>> want to > >>>>>>>>>>> verify this themselves. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> I also am not interested in a debate so if we disagree then > just > >>>>>>> leave > >>>>>>>>>>> the simple implementation in place. I’m not philosophically > >>> motivated > >>>>>>>>> much > >>>>>>>>>>> here in these discussions but I’m vehemently opposed to > >>> integrating > >>>>>>>>> Log4J2. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 6, 2016, at 7:55 AM, Arnaud Héritier < > >>> aherit...@gmail.com> > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks for this valuable comment Jason :( > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 1:46 PM, Jason van Zyl < > ja...@takari.io> > >>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -1 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do not merge this branch. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 6, 2016, at 4:05 AM, Tibor Digana < > >>> tibordig...@apache.org> > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Arnaud, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you plan a Release Version to merge this branch o > master in > >>>>>>>>> Maven? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 7:18 AM, Arnaud Héritier [via > Maven] < > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ml-node+s40175n5857870...@n5.nabble.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just because only 2.4 was available when I updated this > >>> feature > >>>>>>>>>>> branch > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> few > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> months ago. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Le mardi 5 janvier 2016, Gary Gregory <[hidden email] > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http:///user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=5857870&i=0>> > a > >>>>>>> écrit : > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Arnaud, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for the update. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why not update the Log4j 2 dep from 2.4 to 2.5? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gary > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 2:46 PM, Arnaud Héritier <[hidden > >>> email] > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http:///user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=5857870&i=1> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Gary, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I fixed this in the branch : > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/apache/maven/commits/slf4j-log4j2.4 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The fix is in > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>> > maven-embedder/src/main/resources/META-INF/maven/slf4j-configuration.properties > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ( > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>> > https://github.com/apache/maven/commit/8cddea291c279130d437bcdf3337f16296558530 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ) > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is the update I did after my old blog post : > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.aheritier.net/united-colors-of-maven/ > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BR > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 25, 2015 at 4:09 PM, Gary Gregory <[hidden > >>> email] > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http:///user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=5857870&i=2> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi All, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Happy Holidays. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can the next version of Maven be rid of this warning: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [WARN] The SLF4J binding actually used is not > supported by > >>>>>>>>> Maven: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.logging.slf4j.Log4jLoggerFactory > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [WARN] Maven supported bindings are: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [WARN] (from > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>> > jar:file:/E:/Java/apache-maven-3.3.9/bin/../lib/maven-embedder-3.3.9.jar!/META-INF/maven/slf4j-configuration.properties) > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - ch.qos.logback.classic.LoggerContext > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - org.slf4j.helpers.Log4jLoggerFactory > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - org.slf4j.impl.SimpleLoggerFactory > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is there a step I am missing to use Log4j 2 cleanly? 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