Hi Gary
+1 support for graduation. Thank you and other devs for all the hard work committed to this project. It has been much fun working with you guys, and I look forward to more challenges and excitements after the graduation! Cheers! Yanhui ________________________________ From: Gang(Gary) Wang <ga...@apache.org> Sent: Friday, August 25, 2017 12:00:03 PM To: John D. Ament; dev@mnemonic.incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Graduation? Hi John, Our Mentors and PPMCs We have prepared Apache Maturity checklist for your evaluation, please guide us to graduate our project, thanks. All comments and suggestions are welcome! Cheers! Gary On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 1:31 PM, Gang(Gary) Wang <ga...@apache.org> wrote: > Hi John > > Fixed it, Thank you for reminding me > > Very truly yours > Gary > > > On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 12:39 PM, John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org> > wrote: > >> Please take a look at https://dist.apache.org/rep >> os/dist/dev/incubator/mnemonic/ >> >> >> On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 1:55 PM Gang(Gary) Wang <ga...@apache.org> wrote: >> >>> Hi John >>> >>> This issue has been fixed please refresh your browser and then review >>> it, Thanks! >>> >>> Very truly yours >>> Gary >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 10:33 AM, Gang(Gary) Wang <ga...@apache.org> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi John >>>> >>>> I didn't realize that and thank you very much for pointing it out, we >>>> will correct this according to your guidance. >>>> >>>> Thanks! >>>> Very truly yours >>>> Gary >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 4:54 AM, John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Thanks, but you're still out of compliance. >>>>> >>>>> - You're linking directly to your un-mirrored artifacts, but you >>>>> should be linking to your mirrored artifacts. >>>>> - You have not cleaned up your old releases, your old releases should >>>>> be archived. >>>>> >>>>> Now here's the catch - we require mirroring but I can't find anything >>>>> saying what the mirroring URL is. The format is going to be >>>>> http://apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi/incubator/mnemonic and you'll want >>>>> to grab your specific version from there. >>>>> >>>>> John >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 9:31 PM Gang(Gary) Wang <ga...@apache.org> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi John, >>>>>> >>>>>> The Download menu item has been added to the navigator in home page, >>>>>> Please refresh your browser to review it, Thank you very much for the >>>>>> suggestion. >>>>>> >>>>>> Very truly yours >>>>>> Gary >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 6:04 PM, Gang(Gary) Wang <ga...@apache.org> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi John, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can download all versions of the package from Apache >>>>>>> distribution site that is linked from the following web page >>>>>>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-mnemonic/releases >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Also, we can download them from Apache Mirrored Github page >>>>>>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-mnemonic/releases >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We could add another menu item on top of home page dedicated for >>>>>>> downloading the latest one. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Very truly yours >>>>>>> Gary >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 5:40 PM, John D. Ament < >>>>>>> johndam...@apache.org> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'm looking at your website. How do I download Mnemonic? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> John >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 4:37 PM Gary Wong <qich...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi Uma >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Yes, We are going to send out this checklist for PPMC review, >>>>>>>>> Thank you very much for the guidance. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Very truly yours >>>>>>>>> Gary >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 1:23 PM, Gangumalla, Uma < >>>>>>>>> uma.ganguma...@intel.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> IMO, Mnemonic project doing good and ready for graduation. >>>>>>>>>> What is the mentors call on this? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I remember many other projects do Maturity model checklist to >>>>>>>>>> check where >>>>>>>>>> we are? Gary/John do you mind ready that sheet, so that will help >>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>> assess better? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>> Uma >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 8/16/17, 12:46 PM, "Johnu George" <jo...@apache.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >It seems that we are ready to be a top level project . We have >>>>>>>>>> a stable >>>>>>>>>> >release and we work well as a apache community under the >>>>>>>>>> guidance of our >>>>>>>>>> >mentors. Any thoughts? >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> >On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 12:00 PM, Gang(Gary) Wang < >>>>>>>>>> ga...@apache.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> >> Dear John and Patrick, >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> >> Thank you for the guidance, we have completed the construction >>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>> >>Mnemonic >>>>>>>>>> >> Website recently according to your feedback, this Apache >>>>>>>>>> server hosted >>>>>>>>>> >> website will be kept up to date and maintained by dedicated >>>>>>>>>> community >>>>>>>>>> >> members. we also have redirected the visitors from Github to >>>>>>>>>> our Apache >>>>>>>>>> >> server hosted website by providing a forward link in project >>>>>>>>>> README.md >>>>>>>>>> >> file. Please review it as follows. >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> >> http://mnemonic.incubator.apache.org/ >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> >> Note: the browser cache may cause unexpected view of this >>>>>>>>>> website, >>>>>>>>>> >>please >>>>>>>>>> >> clear browser cache or visit it in incognito mode. >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> >> Very truly yours. >>>>>>>>>> >> Gary >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> >> On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 6:04 PM, John D. Ament < >>>>>>>>>> johndam...@apache.org> >>>>>>>>>> >> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> >> > Hi patrick, >>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>> >> > I recently raised an issue with the website to the team. I >>>>>>>>>> personally >>>>>>>>>> >> > would like to see that fixed before a graduation. >>>>>>>>>> Specifically saying >>>>>>>>>> >> that >>>>>>>>>> >> > you need to learn it from github. >>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>> >> > John >>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>> >> > On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 8:15 PM Patrick Hunt < >>>>>>>>>> ph...@apache.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>> >> > > Given the recent work to bring on additional RMs (and >>>>>>>>>> increase >>>>>>>>>> >> community >>>>>>>>>> >> > > involvement in general) and clearly document release >>>>>>>>>> procedures I >>>>>>>>>> >>feel >>>>>>>>>> >> > that >>>>>>>>>> >> > > my previous concerns have been largely addressed. If there >>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>> >>interest >>>>>>>>>> >> in >>>>>>>>>> >> > > the community I would now be in favor, but up to you - do >>>>>>>>>> you feel >>>>>>>>>> >> you're >>>>>>>>>> >> > > ready to graduate at this point? >>>>>>>>>> >> > > >>>>>>>>>> >> > > Regards, >>>>>>>>>> >> > > >>>>>>>>>> >> > > Patrick >>>>>>>>>> >> > > >>>>>>>>>> >> > > >>>>>>>>>> >> > > On Fri, May 5, 2017 at 3:30 PM, Debojyoti Dutta < >>>>>>>>>> ddu...@apache.org> >>>>>>>>>> >> > wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >> > > >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> On the diversity issue, we are trying to solve that with >>>>>>>>>> new >>>>>>>>>> >> committers >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> from different organizations. We have had contributions >>>>>>>>>> from other >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> companies like Cisco recently. >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> This space is about to heat up soon and we will see more >>>>>>>>>> >>committers. >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> cheers >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> debo >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> On Fri, May 5, 2017 at 8:18 AM, Patrick Hunt < >>>>>>>>>> ph...@apache.org> >>>>>>>>>> >> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > I've mentored a number of podlings over the years and >>>>>>>>>> this one if >>>>>>>>>> >> very >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> well >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > run and is on a good trajectory. As noted my main >>>>>>>>>> concern is >>>>>>>>>> >>about >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > diversity - in particular "self-sustaining and >>>>>>>>>> self-governing >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> communities". >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > http://incubator.apache.org/gu >>>>>>>>>> ides/graduation.html#community >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > That's pretty clear and concise statements from the >>>>>>>>>> Apache >>>>>>>>>> >>community >>>>>>>>>> >> > as >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> a >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > whole as to what it takes. The podling is following >>>>>>>>>> "the apache >>>>>>>>>> >>way" >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> quite >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > well, so it's really the sustaining part for me. >>>>>>>>>> Ensuring that >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> community is >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > being built and the community as a whole is owning the >>>>>>>>>> process. >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > Hope this helps, regards, >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > Patrick >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 2:24 PM, Andrew Purtell >>>>>>>>>> >><apurt...@apache.org >>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > For me the best test if a podling is ready for >>>>>>>>>> graduation is >>>>>>>>>> >>they >>>>>>>>>> >> do >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> it >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > (mostly) for themselves. So, Mnemonic, I'd encourage >>>>>>>>>> you to >>>>>>>>>> >>search >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > through >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > the incubator mailing list archives for examples of >>>>>>>>>> other >>>>>>>>>> >>podlings >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > running >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > a graduation vote and submitting the result to the >>>>>>>>>> IPMC. Then, >>>>>>>>>> >>do >>>>>>>>>> >> > it. >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > I'm glad to see the recent move to bring in more RMs >>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>> >>response >>>>>>>>>> >> to >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> the >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > earlier feedback, now that everyone is aware of it. >>>>>>>>>> Sorry, I >>>>>>>>>> >> didn't >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> think >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > that the incubator report might not be read back. >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 5:42 PM, John D. Ament < >>>>>>>>>> >> > johndam...@apache.org> >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> Patrick, >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> I read it. I'm curious, did you or Andrew share >>>>>>>>>> your feedback >>>>>>>>>> >> with >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> Mnemonic directly? I've noticed that podlings >>>>>>>>>> sometimes don't >>>>>>>>>> >> see >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> the >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> input, and don't receive responses the way TLPs do. >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> For the podling's information, we do also maintain a >>>>>>>>>> whimsy >>>>>>>>>> >>page >>>>>>>>>> >> of >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> all >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> approved board reports per project, Mnemonic can see >>>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>>> >> > information >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> here: >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> https://whimsy.apache.org/board/minutes/Mnemonic >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> When I see a podling receiving 5 +1's on a dev list >>>>>>>>>> release >>>>>>>>>> >>vote, >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > that's a >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> great sign. >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> There probably is room for more on list discussion, >>>>>>>>>> and yes >>>>>>>>>> >>the >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > committer >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> diversity isn't 100% there (I would be curious to >>>>>>>>>> see company >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> affiliations). >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> I'll also point out that I sometimes ask these >>>>>>>>>> questions to >>>>>>>>>> >> > podlings >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> to >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> get >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> them to start thinking about graduation, not >>>>>>>>>> actually moving >>>>>>>>>> >> > forward >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> yet >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> due to $reasons. >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 2:58 PM Patrick Hunt < >>>>>>>>>> ph...@apache.org> >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> > Hi John, did you read my feedback on the most >>>>>>>>>> recent podling >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> report? >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > Do >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> > you disagree? I don't believe this has changed >>>>>>>>>> >>significantly in >>>>>>>>>> >> > the >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > past >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> > month/two. For example all releases have been done >>>>>>>>>> by a >>>>>>>>>> >>single >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> person. >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> > >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> > https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/March2017 >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> > >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> > As I've mentioned previously my only concerns at >>>>>>>>>> this point >>>>>>>>>> >>are >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> around >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> > diversity. >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> > >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> > Patrick >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> > >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> > On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 11:07 AM, Gang(Gary) Wang < >>>>>>>>>> >> > ga...@apache.org >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> > >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> Hi John and PPMCs >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> As John advised, our community and project >>>>>>>>>> mnemonic might >>>>>>>>>> >>be >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> ready to >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> get >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> graduated, I'd like to start the following votes >>>>>>>>>> according >>>>>>>>>> >>to >>>>>>>>>> >> > the >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> processes >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> of http://incubator.apache.org/gu >>>>>>>>>> ides/graduation.html with >>>>>>>>>> >> your >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> mentoring >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> and guidance if no objection today >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> - Community graduation vote >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> - IPMC recommendation vote >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> Mnemonic Project Incubation Status >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> http://incubator.apache.org/pr >>>>>>>>>> ojects/mnemonic.html >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> Very truly yours >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> +Gary >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 11:26 PM, Gang(Gary) Wang < >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> ga...@apache.org> >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > Hi John >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > Thank you for starting this discussion. >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > Yes, our community is growing and continue to >>>>>>>>>> attract >>>>>>>>>> >>more >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> people >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > to >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> join >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > our community. Some industry users are aware of >>>>>>>>>> mnemonic >>>>>>>>>> >>and >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > already >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> get >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > interested as i known. >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > Mnemonic is able to deliver unique values to >>>>>>>>>> their >>>>>>>>>> >>business >>>>>>>>>> >> > so I >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> think >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > that it is very important for us to get mnemonic >>>>>>>>>> >>graduated >>>>>>>>>> >> in >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> time >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > if >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > qualified. >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > My 2 cents, looks nothing left for us to >>>>>>>>>> graduate >>>>>>>>>> >>Mnemonic, >>>>>>>>>> >> > I'm >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > also >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > looking forward to propose our project as >>>>>>>>>> Apache TLP. >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > Thanks! >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > Very truly yours >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > Gary >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > On Tuesday, May 2, 2017, John D. Ament < >>>>>>>>>> >> johndam...@apache.org >>>>>>>>>> >> > > >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > > Hi Mnemonic PPMC, >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > > >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > > After looking at your recent release, your >>>>>>>>>> current >>>>>>>>>> >>growth >>>>>>>>>> >> > and >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > well >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > functioning PPMC, was wondering what was left >>>>>>>>>> for you >>>>>>>>>> >>guys >>>>>>>>>> >> to >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> graduate? >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > > >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > > John >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > > >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> > >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> > >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > -- >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > Best regards, >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > - Andy >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > If you are given a choice, you believe you have acted >>>>>>>>>> freely. - >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> Raymond >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > Teller (via Peter Watts) >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >>>>>>>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>> >> > > >>>>>>>>>> >> > > >>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>> >
