Huge +1 to that. On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 5:18 PM Henry Saputra <henry.sapu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The "checklist" suppose to just provide guide for readiness our > graduation. It was NOT mandatory checklist. > > This should be used primarily for self check to make sure we are ready for > graduation. > > > - Henry > > On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 7:50 PM, John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org> > wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> So first, I'll say its always great to see a podling aim to graduate. Its >> not up to me to measure whether the podling has been successful or not, >> but >> instead the IPMC as a whole. I can give you some feedback on the APMM >> assessment, but I'll point out that I'm not a fan of this form and >> completing this form is not a requirement for graduation. >> >> So please, when reviewing the below list, understand that completing this >> is not a requirement for graduation. Even then, podlings who think they >> pass it may be missing things. >> >> CD20 - You have a link in your header called GITHUB that brought me to >> your >> source code. Other projects use hacking guides. Unless you're on gitbox, >> the git primary repo should be the ASF hosted repos. >> >> CD30 - The usage of docker is in of itself a violation of this item, from >> my point of view. In your case, you're pointing to "centos:latest" which >> today is C7.2, but in a few months will be C7.3. >> >> CD50 - I can't tell if the pull requests to your repo are from committers >> or from contributors. If I take >> https://github.com/apache/incubator-mnemonic/pull/60 as an example, the >> commit message says nothing about provenance of the source code. >> >> LC50 - You mention in your response why this is incorrect (the use of >> *most*) >> >> RE10 - You link to http://mnemonic.incubator.apache.org/news/ but that >> doesn't include any download links. >> http://mnemonic.incubator.apache.org/downloads/ does include download >> links >> to the proper release mirrors. >> >> RE20 - You mention non-PMC members in the vote (PPMC). >> >> RE30 - Again, not using mirror. >> >> RE40 - Correct answer would be "NO. We do not distribute binary releases." >> >> RE50 - Your release process neglects deleting old artifacts. >> >> QU10 - Code quality is more than bug reports. You may want to use >> linters, >> sonar, etc. >> >> QU20 - This is only achievable if you've had a security vulnerability >> reported. If you haven't had one reported, there's no way to confirm >> this. >> >> QU50 - I see that MNEMONIC-203/217 have been open for around 6 months. >> >> CO10 - Github shows two pull requests open without any commentary or >> questions from the project's committers. Why is that? >> >> Regards, >> >> John >> >> On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 3:00 PM Gang(Gary) Wang <ga...@apache.org> wrote: >> >> > Hi John, Our Mentors and PPMCs >> > >> > We have prepared Apache Maturity checklist for your evaluation, please >> > guide us to graduate our project, thanks. >> > >> > All comments and suggestions are welcome! >> > >> > Cheers! >> > Gary >> > >> > >> > On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 1:31 PM, Gang(Gary) Wang <ga...@apache.org> >> wrote: >> > >> >> Hi John >> >> >> >> Fixed it, Thank you for reminding me >> >> >> >> Very truly yours >> >> Gary >> >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 12:39 PM, John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org >> > >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >>> Please take a look at >> >>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/mnemonic/ >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 1:55 PM Gang(Gary) Wang <ga...@apache.org> >> >>> wrote: >> >>> >> >>>> Hi John >> >>>> >> >>>> This issue has been fixed please refresh your browser and then review >> >>>> it, Thanks! >> >>>> >> >>>> Very truly yours >> >>>> Gary >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 10:33 AM, Gang(Gary) Wang <ga...@apache.org> >> >>>> wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>>> Hi John >> >>>>> >> >>>>> I didn't realize that and thank you very much for pointing it out, >> we >> >>>>> will correct this according to your guidance. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Thanks! >> >>>>> Very truly yours >> >>>>> Gary >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 4:54 AM, John D. Ament < >> johndam...@apache.org> >> >>>>> wrote: >> >>>>> >> >>>>>> Thanks, but you're still out of compliance. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> - You're linking directly to your un-mirrored artifacts, but you >> >>>>>> should be linking to your mirrored artifacts. >> >>>>>> - You have not cleaned up your old releases, your old releases >> should >> >>>>>> be archived. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Now here's the catch - we require mirroring but I can't find >> anything >> >>>>>> saying what the mirroring URL is. The format is going to be >> >>>>>> http://apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi/incubator/mnemonic and you'll >> want >> >>>>>> to grab your specific version from there. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> John >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 9:31 PM Gang(Gary) Wang <ga...@apache.org> >> >>>>>> wrote: >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>>> Hi John, >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> The Download menu item has been added to the navigator in home >> page, >> >>>>>>> Please refresh your browser to review it, Thank you very much for >> the >> >>>>>>> suggestion. >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> Very truly yours >> >>>>>>> Gary >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 6:04 PM, Gang(Gary) Wang < >> ga...@apache.org> >> >>>>>>> wrote: >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> Hi John, >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> You can download all versions of the package from Apache >> >>>>>>>> distribution site that is linked from the following web page >> >>>>>>>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-mnemonic/releases >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> Also, we can download them from Apache Mirrored Github page >> >>>>>>>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-mnemonic/releases >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> We could add another menu item on top of home page dedicated for >> >>>>>>>> downloading the latest one. >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> Thanks! >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> Very truly yours >> >>>>>>>> Gary >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 5:40 PM, John D. Ament < >> >>>>>>>> johndam...@apache.org> wrote: >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> I'm looking at your website. How do I download Mnemonic? >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> John >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 4:37 PM Gary Wong <qich...@gmail.com> >> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> Hi Uma >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> Yes, We are going to send out this checklist for PPMC review, >> >>>>>>>>>> Thank you very much for the guidance. >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> Very truly yours >> >>>>>>>>>> Gary >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 1:23 PM, Gangumalla, Uma < >> >>>>>>>>>> uma.ganguma...@intel.com> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> IMO, Mnemonic project doing good and ready for graduation. >> >>>>>>>>>>> What is the mentors call on this? >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> I remember many other projects do Maturity model checklist to >> >>>>>>>>>>> check where >> >>>>>>>>>>> we are? Gary/John do you mind ready that sheet, so that will >> >>>>>>>>>>> help to >> >>>>>>>>>>> assess better? >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> Regards, >> >>>>>>>>>>> Uma >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> On 8/16/17, 12:46 PM, "Johnu George" <jo...@apache.org> >> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> >It seems that we are ready to be a top level project . We >> have >> >>>>>>>>>>> a stable >> >>>>>>>>>>> >release and we work well as a apache community under the >> >>>>>>>>>>> guidance of our >> >>>>>>>>>>> >mentors. Any thoughts? >> >>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 12:00 PM, Gang(Gary) Wang < >> >>>>>>>>>>> ga...@apache.org> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> Dear John and Patrick, >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> Thank you for the guidance, we have completed the >> >>>>>>>>>>> construction of >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>Mnemonic >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> Website recently according to your feedback, this Apache >> >>>>>>>>>>> server hosted >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> website will be kept up to date and maintained by dedicated >> >>>>>>>>>>> community >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> members. we also have redirected the visitors from Github >> to >> >>>>>>>>>>> our Apache >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> server hosted website by providing a forward link in >> project >> >>>>>>>>>>> README.md >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> file. Please review it as follows. >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> http://mnemonic.incubator.apache.org/ >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> Note: the browser cache may cause unexpected view of this >> >>>>>>>>>>> website, >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>please >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> clear browser cache or visit it in incognito mode. >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> Very truly yours. >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> Gary >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 6:04 PM, John D. Ament < >> >>>>>>>>>>> johndam...@apache.org> >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > Hi patrick, >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > I recently raised an issue with the website to the >> team. I >> >>>>>>>>>>> personally >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > would like to see that fixed before a graduation. >> >>>>>>>>>>> Specifically saying >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> that >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > you need to learn it from github. >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > John >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 8:15 PM Patrick Hunt < >> >>>>>>>>>>> ph...@apache.org> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > Given the recent work to bring on additional RMs (and >> >>>>>>>>>>> increase >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> community >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > involvement in general) and clearly document release >> >>>>>>>>>>> procedures I >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>feel >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > that >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > my previous concerns have been largely addressed. If >> >>>>>>>>>>> there is >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>interest >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> in >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > the community I would now be in favor, but up to you - >> do >> >>>>>>>>>>> you feel >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> you're >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > ready to graduate at this point? >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > Regards, >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > Patrick >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > On Fri, May 5, 2017 at 3:30 PM, Debojyoti Dutta < >> >>>>>>>>>>> ddu...@apache.org> >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> On the diversity issue, we are trying to solve that >> with >> >>>>>>>>>>> new >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> committers >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> from different organizations. We have had >> contributions >> >>>>>>>>>>> from other >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> companies like Cisco recently. >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> This space is about to heat up soon and we will see >> more >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>committers. >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> cheers >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> debo >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> On Fri, May 5, 2017 at 8:18 AM, Patrick Hunt < >> >>>>>>>>>>> ph...@apache.org> >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > I've mentored a number of podlings over the years >> and >> >>>>>>>>>>> this one if >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> very >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> well >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > run and is on a good trajectory. As noted my main >> >>>>>>>>>>> concern is >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>about >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > diversity - in particular "self-sustaining and >> >>>>>>>>>>> self-governing >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> communities". >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#community >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > That's pretty clear and concise statements from the >> >>>>>>>>>>> Apache >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>community >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > as >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> a >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > whole as to what it takes. The podling is following >> >>>>>>>>>>> "the apache >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>way" >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> quite >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > well, so it's really the sustaining part for me. >> >>>>>>>>>>> Ensuring that >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> community is >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > being built and the community as a whole is owning >> the >> >>>>>>>>>>> process. >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > Hope this helps, regards, >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > Patrick >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 2:24 PM, Andrew Purtell >> >>>>>>>>>>> >><apurt...@apache.org >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > For me the best test if a podling is ready for >> >>>>>>>>>>> graduation is >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>they >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> do >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> it >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > (mostly) for themselves. So, Mnemonic, I'd >> encourage >> >>>>>>>>>>> you to >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>search >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > through >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > the incubator mailing list archives for examples >> of >> >>>>>>>>>>> other >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>podlings >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > running >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > a graduation vote and submitting the result to the >> >>>>>>>>>>> IPMC. Then, >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>do >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > it. >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > I'm glad to see the recent move to bring in more >> RMs >> >>>>>>>>>>> in >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>response >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> to >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> the >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > earlier feedback, now that everyone is aware of >> it. >> >>>>>>>>>>> Sorry, I >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> didn't >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> think >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > that the incubator report might not be read back. >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 5:42 PM, John D. Ament < >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > johndam...@apache.org> >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> Patrick, >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> I read it. I'm curious, did you or Andrew share >> >>>>>>>>>>> your feedback >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> with >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> Mnemonic directly? I've noticed that podlings >> >>>>>>>>>>> sometimes don't >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> see >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> the >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> input, and don't receive responses the way TLPs >> do. >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> For the podling's information, we do also >> maintain >> >>>>>>>>>>> a whimsy >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>page >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> of >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> all >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> approved board reports per project, Mnemonic can >> >>>>>>>>>>> see that >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > information >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> here: >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> https://whimsy.apache.org/board/minutes/Mnemonic >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> When I see a podling receiving 5 +1's on a dev >> list >> >>>>>>>>>>> release >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>vote, >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > that's a >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> great sign. >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> There probably is room for more on list >> discussion, >> >>>>>>>>>>> and yes >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>the >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > committer >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> diversity isn't 100% there (I would be curious to >> >>>>>>>>>>> see company >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> affiliations). >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> I'll also point out that I sometimes ask these >> >>>>>>>>>>> questions to >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > podlings >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> to >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> get >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> them to start thinking about graduation, not >> >>>>>>>>>>> actually moving >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > forward >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> yet >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> due to $reasons. >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 2:58 PM Patrick Hunt < >> >>>>>>>>>>> ph...@apache.org> >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> > Hi John, did you read my feedback on the most >> >>>>>>>>>>> recent podling >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> report? >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > Do >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> > you disagree? I don't believe this has changed >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>significantly in >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > the >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > past >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> > month/two. For example all releases have been >> >>>>>>>>>>> done by a >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>single >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> person. >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> > https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/March2017 >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> > As I've mentioned previously my only concerns >> at >> >>>>>>>>>>> this point >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>are >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> around >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> > diversity. >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> > Patrick >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> > On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 11:07 AM, Gang(Gary) >> Wang < >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > ga...@apache.org >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> Hi John and PPMCs >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> As John advised, our community and project >> >>>>>>>>>>> mnemonic might >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>be >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> ready to >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> get >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> graduated, I'd like to start the following >> votes >> >>>>>>>>>>> according >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>to >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > the >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> processes >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> of >> >>>>>>>>>>> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html with >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> your >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> mentoring >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> and guidance if no objection today >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> - Community graduation vote >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> - IPMC recommendation vote >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> Mnemonic Project Incubation Status >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> http://incubator.apache.org/projects/mnemonic.html >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> Very truly yours >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> +Gary >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 11:26 PM, Gang(Gary) >> Wang >> >>>>>>>>>>> < >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> ga...@apache.org> >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > Hi John >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > Thank you for starting this discussion. >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > Yes, our community is growing and continue >> to >> >>>>>>>>>>> attract >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>more >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> people >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > to >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> join >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > our community. Some industry users are aware >> >>>>>>>>>>> of mnemonic >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>and >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > already >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> get >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > interested as i known. >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > Mnemonic is able to deliver unique values to >> >>>>>>>>>>> their >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>business >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > so I >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> think >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > that it is very important for us to get >> >>>>>>>>>>> mnemonic >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>graduated >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> in >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> time >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > if >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > qualified. >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > My 2 cents, looks nothing left for us to >> >>>>>>>>>>> graduate >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>Mnemonic, >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > I'm >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > also >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > looking forward to propose our project as >> >>>>>>>>>>> Apache TLP. >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > Thanks! >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > Very truly yours >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > Gary >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > On Tuesday, May 2, 2017, John D. Ament < >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> johndam...@apache.org >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > > Hi Mnemonic PPMC, >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > > After looking at your recent release, your >> >>>>>>>>>>> current >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>growth >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > and >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > well >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > functioning PPMC, was wondering what was >> left >> >>>>>>>>>>> for you >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>guys >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> to >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> graduate? >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > > John >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > -- >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > Best regards, >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > - Andy >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > If you are given a choice, you believe you have >> >>>>>>>>>>> acted freely. - >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> Raymond >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > Teller (via Peter Watts) >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>> >> >> >> > >> > >