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On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 4:40 PM, Gang(Gary) Wang <ga...@apache.org> wrote: > Yes, I also totally agree this and we will try our best for the readiness > for the graduation. > > For the suggestion that John advised, we have prepared the following > comments for your review, Thanks! > > *CD20 - You have a link in your header called GITHUB that brought me to > your source code. Other projects use hacking guides. Unless you're on > gitbox, the git primary repo should be the ASF hosted repos.* > > The github link has been removed from CD20 and using > http://mnemonic.incubator.apache.org/develop/ as the link of website. we > also create ticket MNEMONIC-355 (resolved) to remove Github link from > navigator menu on website. > > *CD30 - The usage of docker is in of itself a violation of this item, from > my point of view. In your case, you're pointing to "centos:latest" which > today is C7.2, but in a few months will be C7.3.* > > Yes, we will fix it through Apache Jira MNEMONIC-353(reviewed) and > MNEMONIC-356(WIP) > > *CD50 - I can't tell if the pull requests to your repo are from committers > or from contributors. If I take > https://github.com/apache/incubator-mnemonic/pull/60 > <https://github.com/apache/incubator-mnemonic/pull/60> as an example, the > commit message says nothing about provenance of the source code.* > > We have requested to revoke all stalled PRs, and all commit messages must > contain Apache JIRA number and title. > > *LC50 - You mention in your response why this is incorrect (the use of > *most*)* > > Yes we will correct it with "The files in the project source repository > have appropriate headers", The files under target/ that generated by mvn > building process would be excluded and all other project files have been > properly licensed and guarded by RAT plugin. > > *RE10 - You link to http://mnemonic.incubator.apache.org/news/ > <http://mnemonic.incubator.apache.org/news/> but that doesn't include any > download links. http://mnemonic.incubator.apache.org/downloads/ > <http://mnemonic.incubator.apache.org/downloads/> does include download > links to the proper release mirrors.* > > That has been corrected by replacing it with the link > http://mnemonic.incubator.apache.org/downloads/ > > *RE20 - You mention non-PMC members in the vote (PPMC).* > > Yes, we started with the community vote for releasing and the result > explicitly shows binding and non-binding votes. > > *RE30 - Again, not using mirror.* > > Looks no mirror link in this field. > > *RE40 - Correct answer would be "NO. We do not distribute binary > releases."* > > Yes it is and corrected > > *RE50 - Your release process neglects deleting old artifacts.* > > Sorry I forgot it and corrected it by the Apache Jira ticket MNEMONIC-357 > (resolved) as well as MNEMONIC-358 (resolved) > > *QU10 - Code quality is more than bug reports. You may want to use > linters, sonar, etc.* > > Yes, we will investigate this plugin and apply them to project later, as > for now, the QU10 has been replaced with "YES. The project records all bugs > in the Apache’s JIRA issue tracker. Developer also uses Eclipse or Intellij > IDEA to improve their code quality." > > *QU20 - This is only achievable if you've had a security vulnerability > reported. If you haven't had one reported, there's no way to confirm > this.* > > The QU20 has been replaced with "YES. Security issues would be treated with > the highest priority, computing service and memory service are separated > from other modules and defined by interfaces, so security concerns could be > largely mitigated by introduced this design at first place.", that this > emphasize we consider the security aspect from design viewpoint as well. > > *QU50 - I see that MNEMONIC-203/217 have been open for around 6 months.* > > We have asked owners to properly handle those tickets > > *CO10 - Github shows two pull requests open without any commentary or > questions from the project's committers. Why is that?* > > They are stalled PRs, we have asked the owner to properly revoke them. > > *The full checklist as follows for you to add comments* > https://docs.google.com/document/d/10LKTjPMceV4s4MrSRIA9L8pg7jLFp > -ec-TmW96mZbXM/edit?usp=sharing > > Very truly yours > Gary > > > > > > On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 2:25 PM, John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org> > wrote: > > > Huge +1 to that. > > > > On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 5:18 PM Henry Saputra <henry.sapu...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > The "checklist" suppose to just provide guide for readiness our > > > graduation. It was NOT mandatory checklist. > > > > > > This should be used primarily for self check to make sure we are ready > > for > > > graduation. > > > > > > > > > - Henry > > > > > > On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 7:50 PM, John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org> > > > wrote: > > > > > >> Hello, > > >> > > >> So first, I'll say its always great to see a podling aim to graduate. > > Its > > >> not up to me to measure whether the podling has been successful or > not, > > >> but > > >> instead the IPMC as a whole. I can give you some feedback on the APMM > > >> assessment, but I'll point out that I'm not a fan of this form and > > >> completing this form is not a requirement for graduation. > > >> > > >> So please, when reviewing the below list, understand that completing > > this > > >> is not a requirement for graduation. Even then, podlings who think > they > > >> pass it may be missing things. > > >> > > >> CD20 - You have a link in your header called GITHUB that brought me to > > >> your > > >> source code. Other projects use hacking guides. Unless you're on > > gitbox, > > >> the git primary repo should be the ASF hosted repos. > > >> > > >> CD30 - The usage of docker is in of itself a violation of this item, > > from > > >> my point of view. In your case, you're pointing to "centos:latest" > > which > > >> today is C7.2, but in a few months will be C7.3. > > >> > > >> CD50 - I can't tell if the pull requests to your repo are from > > committers > > >> or from contributors. If I take > > >> https://github.com/apache/incubator-mnemonic/pull/60 as an example, > the > > >> commit message says nothing about provenance of the source code. > > >> > > >> LC50 - You mention in your response why this is incorrect (the use of > > >> *most*) > > >> > > >> RE10 - You link to http://mnemonic.incubator.apache.org/news/ but > that > > >> doesn't include any download links. > > >> http://mnemonic.incubator.apache.org/downloads/ does include download > > >> links > > >> to the proper release mirrors. > > >> > > >> RE20 - You mention non-PMC members in the vote (PPMC). > > >> > > >> RE30 - Again, not using mirror. > > >> > > >> RE40 - Correct answer would be "NO. We do not distribute binary > > releases." > > >> > > >> RE50 - Your release process neglects deleting old artifacts. > > >> > > >> QU10 - Code quality is more than bug reports. You may want to use > > >> linters, > > >> sonar, etc. > > >> > > >> QU20 - This is only achievable if you've had a security vulnerability > > >> reported. If you haven't had one reported, there's no way to confirm > > >> this. > > >> > > >> QU50 - I see that MNEMONIC-203/217 have been open for around 6 months. > > >> > > >> CO10 - Github shows two pull requests open without any commentary or > > >> questions from the project's committers. Why is that? > > >> > > >> Regards, > > >> > > >> John > > >> > > >> On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 3:00 PM Gang(Gary) Wang <ga...@apache.org> > > wrote: > > >> > > >> > Hi John, Our Mentors and PPMCs > > >> > > > >> > We have prepared Apache Maturity checklist for your evaluation, > please > > >> > guide us to graduate our project, thanks. > > >> > > > >> > All comments and suggestions are welcome! > > >> > > > >> > Cheers! > > >> > Gary > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 1:31 PM, Gang(Gary) Wang <ga...@apache.org> > > >> wrote: > > >> > > > >> >> Hi John > > >> >> > > >> >> Fixed it, Thank you for reminding me > > >> >> > > >> >> Very truly yours > > >> >> Gary > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 12:39 PM, John D. Ament < > > johndam...@apache.org > > >> > > > >> >> wrote: > > >> >> > > >> >>> Please take a look at > > >> >>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/mnemonic/ > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 1:55 PM Gang(Gary) Wang <ga...@apache.org > > > > >> >>> wrote: > > >> >>> > > >> >>>> Hi John > > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> This issue has been fixed please refresh your browser and then > > review > > >> >>>> it, Thanks! > > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> Very truly yours > > >> >>>> Gary > > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 10:33 AM, Gang(Gary) Wang < > > ga...@apache.org> > > >> >>>> wrote: > > >> >>>> > > >> >>>>> Hi John > > >> >>>>> > > >> >>>>> I didn't realize that and thank you very much for pointing it > out, > > >> we > > >> >>>>> will correct this according to your guidance. > > >> >>>>> > > >> >>>>> Thanks! > > >> >>>>> Very truly yours > > >> >>>>> Gary > > >> >>>>> > > >> >>>>> > > >> >>>>> On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 4:54 AM, John D. Ament < > > >> johndam...@apache.org> > > >> >>>>> wrote: > > >> >>>>> > > >> >>>>>> Thanks, but you're still out of compliance. > > >> >>>>>> > > >> >>>>>> - You're linking directly to your un-mirrored artifacts, but > you > > >> >>>>>> should be linking to your mirrored artifacts. > > >> >>>>>> - You have not cleaned up your old releases, your old releases > > >> should > > >> >>>>>> be archived. > > >> >>>>>> > > >> >>>>>> Now here's the catch - we require mirroring but I can't find > > >> anything > > >> >>>>>> saying what the mirroring URL is. The format is going to be > > >> >>>>>> http://apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi/incubator/mnemonic and you'll > > >> want > > >> >>>>>> to grab your specific version from there. > > >> >>>>>> > > >> >>>>>> John > > >> >>>>>> > > >> >>>>>> > > >> >>>>>> > > >> >>>>>> On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 9:31 PM Gang(Gary) Wang < > > ga...@apache.org> > > >> >>>>>> wrote: > > >> >>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>> Hi John, > > >> >>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>> The Download menu item has been added to the navigator in home > > >> page, > > >> >>>>>>> Please refresh your browser to review it, Thank you very much > > for > > >> the > > >> >>>>>>> suggestion. > > >> >>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>> Very truly yours > > >> >>>>>>> Gary > > >> >>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 6:04 PM, Gang(Gary) Wang < > > >> ga...@apache.org> > > >> >>>>>>> wrote: > > >> >>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>>> Hi John, > > >> >>>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>>> You can download all versions of the package from Apache > > >> >>>>>>>> distribution site that is linked from the following web page > > >> >>>>>>>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-mnemonic/releases > > >> >>>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>>> Also, we can download them from Apache Mirrored Github page > > >> >>>>>>>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-mnemonic/releases > > >> >>>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>>> We could add another menu item on top of home page dedicated > > for > > >> >>>>>>>> downloading the latest one. > > >> >>>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>>> Thanks! > > >> >>>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>>> Very truly yours > > >> >>>>>>>> Gary > > >> >>>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 5:40 PM, John D. Ament < > > >> >>>>>>>> johndam...@apache.org> wrote: > > >> >>>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>>>> I'm looking at your website. How do I download Mnemonic? > > >> >>>>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>>>> John > > >> >>>>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 4:37 PM Gary Wong < > qich...@gmail.com> > > >> >>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >> >>>>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>>>>> Hi Uma > > >> >>>>>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>>>>> Yes, We are going to send out this checklist for PPMC > review, > > >> >>>>>>>>>> Thank you very much for the guidance. > > >> >>>>>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>>>>> Very truly yours > > >> >>>>>>>>>> Gary > > >> >>>>>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 1:23 PM, Gangumalla, Uma < > > >> >>>>>>>>>> uma.ganguma...@intel.com> wrote: > > >> >>>>>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> IMO, Mnemonic project doing good and ready for graduation. > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> What is the mentors call on this? > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> I remember many other projects do Maturity model checklist > > to > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> check where > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> we are? Gary/John do you mind ready that sheet, so that > will > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> help to > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> assess better? > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> Regards, > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> Uma > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> On 8/16/17, 12:46 PM, "Johnu George" <jo...@apache.org> > > >> wrote: > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >It seems that we are ready to be a top level project . > We > > >> have > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> a stable > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >release and we work well as a apache community under the > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> guidance of our > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >mentors. Any thoughts? > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 12:00 PM, Gang(Gary) Wang < > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> ga...@apache.org> wrote: > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> Dear John and Patrick, > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> Thank you for the guidance, we have completed the > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> construction of > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>Mnemonic > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> Website recently according to your feedback, this > Apache > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> server hosted > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> website will be kept up to date and maintained by > > dedicated > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> community > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> members. we also have redirected the visitors from > > Github > > >> to > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> our Apache > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> server hosted website by providing a forward link in > > >> project > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> README.md > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> file. Please review it as follows. > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> http://mnemonic.incubator.apache.org/ > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> Note: the browser cache may cause unexpected view of > this > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> website, > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>please > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> clear browser cache or visit it in incognito mode. > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> Very truly yours. > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> Gary > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 6:04 PM, John D. Ament < > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> johndam...@apache.org> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> wrote: > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > Hi patrick, > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > I recently raised an issue with the website to the > > >> team. I > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> personally > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > would like to see that fixed before a graduation. > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> Specifically saying > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> that > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > you need to learn it from github. > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > John > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 8:15 PM Patrick Hunt < > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> ph...@apache.org> wrote: > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > Given the recent work to bring on additional RMs > (and > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> increase > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> community > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > involvement in general) and clearly document > release > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> procedures I > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>feel > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > that > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > my previous concerns have been largely addressed. > If > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> there is > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>interest > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> in > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > the community I would now be in favor, but up to > you > > - > > >> do > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> you feel > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> you're > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > ready to graduate at this point? > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > Regards, > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > Patrick > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > On Fri, May 5, 2017 at 3:30 PM, Debojyoti Dutta < > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> ddu...@apache.org> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > wrote: > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> On the diversity issue, we are trying to solve > that > > >> with > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> new > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> committers > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> from different organizations. We have had > > >> contributions > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> from other > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> companies like Cisco recently. > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> This space is about to heat up soon and we will > see > > >> more > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>committers. > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> cheers > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> debo > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> On Fri, May 5, 2017 at 8:18 AM, Patrick Hunt < > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> ph...@apache.org> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> wrote: > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > I've mentored a number of podlings over the > years > > >> and > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> this one if > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> very > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> well > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > run and is on a good trajectory. As noted my > main > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> concern is > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>about > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > diversity - in particular "self-sustaining and > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> self-governing > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> communities". > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html# > > community > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > That's pretty clear and concise statements from > > the > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> Apache > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>community > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > as > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> a > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > whole as to what it takes. The podling is > > following > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> "the apache > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>way" > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> quite > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > well, so it's really the sustaining part for me. > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> Ensuring that > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> community is > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > being built and the community as a whole is > owning > > >> the > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> process. > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > Hope this helps, regards, > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > Patrick > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 2:24 PM, Andrew Purtell > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >><apurt...@apache.org > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > wrote: > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > For me the best test if a podling is ready for > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> graduation is > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>they > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> do > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> it > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > (mostly) for themselves. So, Mnemonic, I'd > > >> encourage > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> you to > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>search > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > through > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > the incubator mailing list archives for > examples > > >> of > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> other > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>podlings > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > running > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > a graduation vote and submitting the result to > > the > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> IPMC. Then, > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>do > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > it. > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > I'm glad to see the recent move to bring in > more > > >> RMs > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> in > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>response > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> to > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> the > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > earlier feedback, now that everyone is aware > of > > >> it. > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> Sorry, I > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> didn't > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> think > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > that the incubator report might not be read > > back. > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 5:42 PM, John D. Ament > < > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > johndam...@apache.org> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > wrote: > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> Patrick, > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> I read it. I'm curious, did you or Andrew > > share > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> your feedback > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> with > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> Mnemonic directly? I've noticed that > podlings > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> sometimes don't > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> see > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> the > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> input, and don't receive responses the way > TLPs > > >> do. > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> For the podling's information, we do also > > >> maintain > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> a whimsy > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>page > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> of > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> all > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> approved board reports per project, Mnemonic > > can > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> see that > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > information > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> here: > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> https://whimsy.apache.org/ > > board/minutes/Mnemonic > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> When I see a podling receiving 5 +1's on a > dev > > >> list > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> release > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>vote, > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > that's a > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> great sign. > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> There probably is room for more on list > > >> discussion, > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> and yes > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>the > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > committer > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> diversity isn't 100% there (I would be > curious > > to > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> see company > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> affiliations). > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> I'll also point out that I sometimes ask > these > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> questions to > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > podlings > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> to > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> get > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> them to start thinking about graduation, not > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> actually moving > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > forward > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> yet > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> due to $reasons. > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 2:58 PM Patrick Hunt < > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> ph...@apache.org> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> wrote: > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> > Hi John, did you read my feedback on the > most > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> recent podling > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> report? > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > Do > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> > you disagree? I don't believe this has > > changed > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>significantly in > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > the > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > past > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> > month/two. For example all releases have > been > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> done by a > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>single > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> person. > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> > > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> > https://wiki.apache.org/ > incubator/March2017 > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> > > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> > As I've mentioned previously my only > concerns > > >> at > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> this point > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>are > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> around > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> > diversity. > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> > > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> > Patrick > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> > > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> > On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 11:07 AM, Gang(Gary) > > >> Wang < > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > ga...@apache.org > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> wrote: > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> > > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> Hi John and PPMCs > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> As John advised, our community and project > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> mnemonic might > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>be > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> ready to > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> get > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> graduated, I'd like to start the following > > >> votes > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> according > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>to > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > the > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> processes > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> of > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html with > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> your > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> mentoring > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> and guidance if no objection today > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> - Community graduation vote > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> - IPMC recommendation vote > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> Mnemonic Project Incubation Status > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> http://incubator.apache.org/projects/mnemonic.html > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> Very truly yours > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> +Gary > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 11:26 PM, > Gang(Gary) > > >> Wang > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> < > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> ga...@apache.org> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> wrote: > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > Hi John > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > Thank you for starting this discussion. > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > Yes, our community is growing and > continue > > >> to > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> attract > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>more > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> people > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > to > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> join > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > our community. Some industry users are > > aware > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> of mnemonic > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>and > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > already > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> get > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > interested as i known. > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > Mnemonic is able to deliver unique > values > > to > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> their > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>business > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > so I > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> think > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > that it is very important for us to get > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> mnemonic > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>graduated > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> in > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> time > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > if > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > qualified. > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > My 2 cents, looks nothing left for us to > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> graduate > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>Mnemonic, > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > I'm > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > also > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > looking forward to propose our project > as > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> Apache TLP. > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > Thanks! > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > Very truly yours > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > Gary > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > On Tuesday, May 2, 2017, John D. Ament < > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> johndam...@apache.org > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> wrote: > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > > Hi Mnemonic PPMC, > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > > > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > > After looking at your recent release, > > your > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> current > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>growth > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > and > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > well > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > functioning PPMC, was wondering what was > > >> left > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> for you > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >>guys > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> to > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> graduate? > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > > > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > > John > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > > > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> > > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> > > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > -- > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > Best regards, > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > - Andy > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > If you are given a choice, you believe you > have > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> acted freely. - > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> Raymond > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > Teller (via Peter Watts) > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>> > > >> >>>>> > > >> >>>> > > >> >> > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >
