Does this mean that we can't put a 1.0.9 release up on www.apache.org?
 Does the filename need to have the word "beta" in it?  If so, does
that mean it can't be released on www.apache.org?

The release is done.  Calling it beta only confuses our users so IMO
we should avoid that if possible (and still comply with JCP rules.) 
Can we just put a disclaimer inside the jar file and on the website? 
Would that solve the problem for now?  (Long term solution is TCK but
that seems a ways off even with Craig greasing the skids.)

Nothing in the jarfile claims to implement the spec.  Its implied but
not stated.  Is that enough for now?

We need some suggestions on how to proceed here.  Our users are
expecting a 1.0.9 release and we already started to give it to them
and then took it back (our mistake.)  Where do we go from here?

sean

On 4/14/05, Craig McClanahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 4/13/05, Martin Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> > However, now another interesting issue comes up. My understanding is that
> > only official ASF releases are supposed to go into the dist directories,
> > and only official ASF releases are supposed to be mirrored, unless an
> > exceptional download volume is anticipated. This begs the question of
> > whether MyFaces 1.0.9 is permitted to become an official ASF release,
> > given that it has not passed the TCK.
> >
> 
> It is correct that you can't produce a final release claiming to
> implement a JCP based spec (including JavaServer Faces) without having
> passed the TCK.  You an do an early access or beta -- the big problem
> in this case (as you point out) was the confusing messaging -- to say
> nothing of the fact that the TSS announcement said only "1.0.9" and
> didn't say "beta".
> 
> > I'm afraid I don't think I can help you resolve that one, although I feel
> > it's important to raise. It might be worthwhile for you folks to have a
> > conversation with some of the other folks who have to deal with TCK
> > issues. The Geronimo folks come to mind, but I'm sure there are others.
> >
> 
> The appropriate Apache-side butts have been kicked into gear (by me
> :-), and I'll help grease any skids needed on the Sun side as well.
> It is indeed well past time where we should have done this.
> 
> > --
> > Martin Cooper
> >
> 
> Craig
>

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