+1 @mike: there were 3 in the last 4 weeks and before that i haven't looked at wiki changes on a regular basis.
regards, gerhard 2011/5/19 Mark Struberg <[email protected]> > Folks, i might be that we have to remove the public access without login > anyway! > > I actually thought this restriction is already in place. > > Remember the last time where Bart Kummel (still sad to not recognice you > for a shakehand at confess in Vienna btw!) helped us with contributing a > paragraph? He also had to file an iCLA. > > That's for 'significant contributions' of course, but a normal user must at > least acknowledge the ALv2 license rules if he likes to 'contribute' > something. > > In Jira we have this 'can be included' checkmark for patches. That's kind > of the analogy I think we also would need in moinmoin. In confluence we > already have an excplicit 'write' access, so this is not so problematic > because that 'ack ALv2' might be handled on the lists upfront. > > wdyt? > > LieGrue, > strub > > --- On Thu, 5/19/11, Mike Kienenberger <[email protected]> wrote: > > > From: Mike Kienenberger <[email protected]> > > Subject: Re: spam in our wiki / wiki migration > > To: "MyFaces Development" <[email protected]> > > Date: Thursday, May 19, 2011, 2:27 PM > > The reality is that we don't use the > > wiki for drafts. We use it to > > allow anyone, including non-officially-recognized > > committers, to create > > MyFaces specific pages. I know Confluence as a > > documentation system > > is going away. It's unclear to me if > > Confluence as a wiki is going > > away. > > I have never been involved with Confluence as an > > administrator, but if > > we can easily add anyone to the wiki space, that could be a > > workable > > solution. If we go that route, we should > > have something immediately > > obvious which describes the process to get access. > > > > My opinion: > > > > Spam isn't a problem so far (going on several years > > here). Major > > spam attacks get cleaned up by infra and are very rare (I > > can recall > > only three). Minor ones happen rarely, and > > are easy to clean up > > ourselves. The benefit of an open wiki far > > outweighs the spam > > cleanup costs. I suspect that the work to > > maintain users for > > Confluence will be greater than the work we spend cleaning > > up spam. > > And as soon as we introduce a delay (getting authorized), > > then we will > > lose contributions. I know I've tried to > > edit certain wikis, but for > > the minor change I wanted to make, it wasn't worth coming > > back at some > > later time after I had gone through the process of being > > authorized. > > > > On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 10:09 AM, Gerhard Petracek > > <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > thx mike for moving the thread. > > > it looks like it's getting more and i don't like to > > observe it. > > > we already said that we move away from [1]. > > > instead of keeping the dev-wiki at [1] for drafts,... > > it might be better to > > > create a separate myfaces-dev space at confluence. > > > so we can add new contributors quite fast and if they > > submit spam, we can > > > remove them easily. > > > that's also the suggestion of the infrastructure team > > (at least of some of > > > them who responded to my question). > > > regards, > > > gerhard > > > [1] http://wiki.apache.org/myfaces/ > > > > > > http://www.irian.at > > > > > > Your JSF powerhouse - > > > JSF Consulting, Development and > > > Courses in English and German > > > > > > Professional Support for Apache MyFaces > > > > > > > > > 2011/5/19 Mike Kienenberger <[email protected]> > > >> > > >> Moving to dev. > > >> > > >> Neither Confluence nor the Apache CMS is a good > > replacement for a > > >> wiki. Unfortunately, there doesn't appear to be > > a better option for > > >> this yet (an unrestricted group documentation > > area). Spam is part of > > >> the price you have to pay to have such an area, > > and we've been pretty > > >> fortunate to not have had that much of an issue > > with it. > > >> > > >> There was a discussion on various documentation > > systems on Cayenne > > >> that you might find helpful: > > >> > > >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg06028.html > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 7:42 AM, Gerhard Petracek > > >> <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > >> > yes - we said we move the content for our > > users to confluence but maybe > > >> > it's > > >> > a better idea to wait until apache cms is > > useable (pdf export,...). > > >> > > > >> > regards, > > >> > gerhard > > >> > http://www.irian.at > > >> > > > >> > Your JSF powerhouse - > > >> > JSF Consulting, Development and > > >> > Courses in English and German > > >> > > > >> > Professional Support for Apache MyFaces > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > 2011/5/19 Mark Struberg <[email protected]> > > >> >> > > >> >> I realized that our Wiki front page is > > pretty old (not to say outdated) > > >> >> http://wiki.apache.org/myfaces/FrontPage > > >> >> > > >> >> LieGrue, > > >> >> strub > > > > > > > > > >
