Hi Clytie, all

Clytie Siddall wrote:

On 03/12/2006, at 11:30 AM, Bernhard Dippold wrote (in conclusion):

I don't want OpenOffice.org to be divided in subprojects where nobody feels to be part of the whole but only of it's *own* project. Many community members are part of several projects and subscribed to a lot of lists. If we all work on interaction between projects and idividuals this will improve communication - and depending on the reaction of the addressed we'll be able to distinguish between inattentiveness and intentional ignorance.

This is my first OOo release, so I can't speak with much experience of this project. However, I do have a good deal of experience in other free-software i18n projects, and I do notice the differences between them and this project.

Communication with localizers is definitely one of the key differences. All my other projects have a very open pipe with i18n.

I've been surprised not to see frequent mails on this or the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list, requesting translations of modules, webpages, documentation, wiki pages, release notes etc. I don't see the requests for feedback on fonts, input code etc., except today's mail about the OFL. I have seen little or no discussion of l10n bugs and the continual effort to fix them.

I know there's a lot of effort going on in each project, but we don't seem to be talking to each other very much. And the rest of the project is like another world, unless you're on lists for other parts of OOo. Even then, there's a very fragged feel about the overall project.

Yes you're right, and I think that several project feel alone or isolated. We should be here a central place or a kind or interface relying what is happening in the development projects and our communities. For example, the PM project seems to have a new roadmap and is requesting for helpers.
http://oopm.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=dev&msgNo=409
May be some people in our communities will enjoy to participate. It may be companies, students or individual, who knows ?.


There's probably a lot of politics and history behind our situation today. I don't know about it, and I don't know if we really have to know about it. All we have to do is build something _now_, that works. And communication holds it all together.

I don't think either that knowing about the history behind the situation is necessary. Communication is an old topic and even if we have made progress over the years, there is still a lot to do and new issues are joining too. So we really need to build the project with new ideas and new energies.

Kind regards
Sophie

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