Hello all, I support Erik’s plan. Collaboration with https://opensourcedesign.net/ as pointed out by Neil could be an alternative.
Kind Regards’ Alex Il giorno mar 8 set 2020 alle 19:14 Eirik Bakke <eba...@ultorg.com> ha scritto: > In my opinion, the ideal way to do this would be to crowdfund the effort > and have new icons be drawn by a single paid, professional icon designer. > I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts on this. > > > > In my experience, drawing an icon takes 30 minutes on average [1], after > getting up to speed. Graphic designers on UpWork are perhaps $30-60/hour > (we'd need to find someone who's qualified for this particular job). For an > initial effort, there are about 160 icons that should be converted [2]. > Ideally, we'd find someone to do it who could later be called upon to do > another 6-700 icons to cover most of the remaining interface, if the first > project is a success. > > > > As an alternative, for a crowdsourced effort, I'd be happy to do a > "training" session by Zoom to show contributors how to draw icons in > Illustrator according to the style guide described in NETBEANS-2617. I'm > swamped until February 2021, though... > > > > Some issues to consider: > > * Programming and graphic design are two different skillsets. Programmers > do not always produce tasteful graphic designs. > > * In the long term, we'd want to convert at least several hundred icons, > maybe thousands [3]. This may be beyond what is possible with a volunteer > effort. > > * If too many different people work on this, we will get a hodgepodge of > different icon styles. > > * Normally, cosmetic issues are not very important. But in this case, the > purpose of the effort is to make NetBeans look good, so aesthetics is > actually a primary concern. > > * From my own experience, it took about 4 hours of icon-drawing work in > Illustrator (which I already had some experience with) before I was fully > "up-to-speed" with designing new icons. If multiple people are working on > the icons, each person will have to go through this learning curve. > > * You often end up copying and pasting shapes between different icons. If > many people are working on the effort, they will end up redrawing shapes > that others have already drawn. > > * There are lots of little issues that contributors will get wrong--e.g. > how vertices are aligned to the pixel grid. A lot of familiarity with the > drawing software is needed. > > * If many people are working on the effort, a single person will still end > up having to go through all the Illustrator files and cleaning them up to a > consistent standard, naming scheme etc. For the simpler icons (e.g. two > rectangles), this takes up as much time as drawing the icon itself. > > > > -- Eirik > > [1] See > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/HiDPI+%28Retina%29+improvements?preview=/110692909/110692926/vectorized.png > > [2] > https://people.csail.mit.edu/ebakke/misc/netbeans-icons/prioritized.html > > [3] https://people.csail.mit.edu/ebakke/misc/netbeans-icons/ > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jaroslav Tulach <jaroslav.tul...@gmail.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, September 8, 2020 4:29 AM > > To: dev@netbeans.apache.org > > Subject: Status of converting icons to SVG > > > > Hello everyone, hello Eirik. > > > > It is a while since the [support for SVG icons](https://github.com/apache/ > netbeans/commit/ > > > 51a01eb9cbfc6f342a1827d47f0b37e1b2f070a3#diff-721be4afbc5aed18d39b11702d02c9fd) > > landed into NetBeans code base. Is it used or is it just laying around? > > > > I do remember there was an attempt to start a community supported > conversion of the icons. What's the status of such conversion? Were some > (at least those visible in the toolbar by default) icons converted? > > > > Maybe we should ask guys that have a say in the wider community like Jirka > Kovalský, Geertjan, etc. to make some buzz around the conversion? Have an > "icon-a-hack-a-ton"? > > > > Last time I asked for help with reorganizing source files layout per > cluster, the community reacted quite well. A lot of people contributed. > Contributing icons shall be even easier and more fun, right? > > > > -jt > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org > > > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org > > > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > > > > > > > > -- *--* *Alessandro Falappa*
