Thanks, this is really helpful advice.

Though, the additional mailing lists suggested in my proposal are really
minimal, i.e., I think these are the absolute minimum that is absolutely
needed -- though probably not all right now this minute, indeed.

Gj

On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 11:19 AM, Emmanuel Lécharny <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Le 06/10/16 à 10:28, Bertrand Delacretaz a écrit :
> > On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 10:13 AM, Geertjan Wielenga
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> ...Before getting people to come over from the existing mailing lists
> to the
> >> Apache NetBeans mailing lists, we need to finalize what those mailing
> lists
> >> are. Comments to my earlier proposal are welcome...
> > Agreed. From my mentor point of view only the private (private PPMC
> > discussions) and dev (project and technical decision making) lists
> > have required roles, others can be created as needed.
> >
> > So if the other mentors agree I'll defer to the NetBeans community to
> > decide which other lists are needed before switching the community
> > here.
>
> Totally make sense. Bertrand bootstrapped the project by creating the
> very first mailing lists, up to the PPMC to decide if some other lists
> are needed, and to create them.
>
> A few thing to remember :
> - each list will have to be moderated. Don't forget to ask for at least
> 3 moderators (from different TZ, covering at least EU and US, ideally
> Asia) for each of those lists
> - the more lists you have, the more spam you'll get ;-) At some point,
> it's an annoyance to have to moderate those spams (even if The ASF spam
> system is *REALLY* efficient - we don't receive spam at all. I really
> mean it... - you will receive a few moderator requests every day per
> mailing list. You just have to ignore them, but you still have to look
> at them.
> - users are frequently cross-posting (yeah, I now, bad, bad, bad...). It
> simply happens, so be prepared to deal with that
> - when user aren't cross posting, they post on te wrong mailing list.
> The more mailing lists you have, the more you'll get mails on the wrong
> mailing lists...
> - from time to tim, you will get a mail from an angry user who complain
> that he/she receives unsollicited mails. Typically, this is someone who
> subscribed to many mailing list, unsibscribed from some of them, but not
> all of them. Good luck to manage their un-subscription if you have a lot
> of mailing lists ;-)
>
> I guess you know all that, but just in case...
>
>

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