After this discussion -- and agreeing with Raphael Bircher and Emmanuel
Lécharny's insights in retrospect -- I think we should go with the mailing
lists we have by default, {dev,users,commits,private}@netbeans.incubator.a.o
-- and ask for additional ones as needed.I haven't seen a massive amount of e-mails coming in to the mailing lists on netbeans.org, i.e., not 100's per day, for example. So we should be OK with tagging. dev: those developing NetBeans itself, i.e., Apache NetBeans committers users: those using NetBeans IDE or building on top of the NetBeans application framework, using tags, e.g., [PLATFORM] or [JAVASCRIPT] etc. commits: commits private: PPMC (later PMC) with minimal traffic since most discussion about developing NetBeans should be on dev mailing list Maybe simplicity and adopting Apache defaults is best and simplest until more are needed. Gj On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 11:42 AM, Geertjan Wielenga < [email protected]> wrote: > Thanks, this is really helpful advice. > > Though, the additional mailing lists suggested in my proposal are really > minimal, i.e., I think these are the absolute minimum that is absolutely > needed -- though probably not all right now this minute, indeed. > > Gj > > On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 11:19 AM, Emmanuel Lécharny <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Le 06/10/16 à 10:28, Bertrand Delacretaz a écrit : >> > On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 10:13 AM, Geertjan Wielenga >> > <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> ...Before getting people to come over from the existing mailing lists >> to the >> >> Apache NetBeans mailing lists, we need to finalize what those mailing >> lists >> >> are. Comments to my earlier proposal are welcome... >> > Agreed. From my mentor point of view only the private (private PPMC >> > discussions) and dev (project and technical decision making) lists >> > have required roles, others can be created as needed. >> > >> > So if the other mentors agree I'll defer to the NetBeans community to >> > decide which other lists are needed before switching the community >> > here. >> >> Totally make sense. Bertrand bootstrapped the project by creating the >> very first mailing lists, up to the PPMC to decide if some other lists >> are needed, and to create them. >> >> A few thing to remember : >> - each list will have to be moderated. Don't forget to ask for at least >> 3 moderators (from different TZ, covering at least EU and US, ideally >> Asia) for each of those lists >> - the more lists you have, the more spam you'll get ;-) At some point, >> it's an annoyance to have to moderate those spams (even if The ASF spam >> system is *REALLY* efficient - we don't receive spam at all. I really >> mean it... - you will receive a few moderator requests every day per >> mailing list. You just have to ignore them, but you still have to look >> at them. >> - users are frequently cross-posting (yeah, I now, bad, bad, bad...). It >> simply happens, so be prepared to deal with that >> - when user aren't cross posting, they post on te wrong mailing list. >> The more mailing lists you have, the more you'll get mails on the wrong >> mailing lists... >> - from time to tim, you will get a mail from an angry user who complain >> that he/she receives unsollicited mails. Typically, this is someone who >> subscribed to many mailing list, unsibscribed from some of them, but not >> all of them. Good luck to manage their un-subscription if you have a lot >> of mailing lists ;-) >> >> I guess you know all that, but just in case... >> >> >
