I think switching mailing lists is going to take a toll on the community. So, we are switching / migrating the @netbeans.org mailing lists to @ netbeans.incubator.apache.org.
First, I assume we will also automatically migrate users? Because if we only ask a lot of people will not notice this and basically be silently dropped (for example, people might lurk on [email protected] or just [email protected]). Then, once out of incubation, we will migrate again from @ netbeans.incubator.apache.org to @netbeans.apache.org? And perhaps in a few years go back to the proper @netbeans.org mailing lists? Now that I think about it, is there a particular reason we cannot have the Apache infra serve the existing @netbeans.org mailing lists? A lot of people have these email addresses in their contacts already, there is tons of sites pointing to them, etc. > 1a. Ask the above to use tags and very clear subject lines in their mails to the unified mailing list. I very much doubt people will learn this. A lot of users@ have short interactions, they will not learn the tagging rule, just pick a mailing list and go with it. Also, could we try a staged approach for this migration? We sort the lists by number or users / activity and start migrating the smallest ones first and leave the largest last? --emi On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 4:09 PM, Geertjan Wielenga < [email protected]> wrote: > Great. What we should try to do is: > > 1. Ask everyone on [email protected], [email protected], > [email protected], and other user-oriented lists, to sign up to users@ > netbeans.incubator.a.o. > > 1a. Ask the above to use tags and very clear subject lines in their mails > to the unified mailing list. > > 1b. Tell the above that, as needed, if it turns out to be unworkable in one > unified list, to create additional ones. > > 2. Ask everyone on [email protected] to sign up to dev@ > netbeans.incubator.a.o. > > 3. Keep the NetBeans Dream Team and NetCAT outside of Apache for the moment > -- i.e., keep them where they are for the moment on netbeans.org and, in > time, once 1 and 2 have been done and are working well, potentially in a > month or so, create new mailing lists for these specific communities, which > don't fit into either 1 or 2 for specific and valid reasons. > > I will do 1 and 2 after about 24 hours from now, to give everyone a chance > to disagree/agree with the above and to discuss further as needed. > > Gj > > On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 2:40 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz < > [email protected]> > wrote: > > > On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 2:39 PM, Geertjan Wielenga > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > >... > > > dev: those developing NetBeans itself, i.e., Apache NetBeans committers > > > users: those using NetBeans IDE or building on top of the NetBeans > > > application framework, using tags, e.g., [PLATFORM] or [JAVASCRIPT] > etc. > > > commits: commits > > > private: PPMC (later PMC) with minimal traffic since most discussion > > about > > > developing NetBeans should be on dev mailing list .. > > > > +1 for starting with those. > > > > -Bertrand > > >
