> Provided netbeans.org gets donated to the ASF ASF will get the domain, it's part of the proposal:
Oracle owns trademark registrations for the NetBeans mark in the U.S. and > EU, and would donate those, including the name "NetBeans" and the " > netbeans.org" domain, to the Apache Foundation, along with other > artifacts, including the U.S. copyright registrations related to NetBeans. > The trademark and copyright transfers would be detailed in separate > documents. --emi On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 12:22 PM, Daniel Gruno <[email protected]> wrote: > On 10/07/2016 11:20 AM, Emilian Bold wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> Then, once out of incubation, we will migrate again from @ > >>> netbeans.incubator.apache.org to @netbeans.apache.org? > >>> > >> > >> Yes but that's seamless, redirects are automatic. > >> > > > > But I wonder, will all the Gmail and email client filters still work > > automatically? > > > > Even with automatic redirects people will suddenly find themselves with > all > > the mailing list emails in the inbox because the filters won't match > > netbeans.incubator.apache.org anymore. > > > > > >>> And perhaps in a few years go back to the proper @netbeans.org mailing > >>> lists? > >> > >> I don't see why. > >> > > > > Why not? netbeans.org is a very visited site, easy to remember and it's > > what we used until now. > > > > > >>> > >>> Now that I think about it, is there a particular reason we cannot have > >> the > >>> Apache infra serve the existing @netbeans.org mailing lists? > >>> > >> > >> If NetBeans becomes an Apache project it lives at apache.org. The ASF > >> is not just a hosting organization, it's a community of communities > >> who lives out of sponsorshing money and as such branding is important. > >> > > > > So no Apache project has a distinct website and branding? > > Provided netbeans.org gets donated to the ASF, it would likely serve as > the user-facing web site, whereas netbeans.apache.org would be the > _project_ web site (iow the developer-facing site). > > See cloudstack.org, openoffice.org etc - we do support and use other > domains, just not for mailing lists. > > > > > When Microsoft did Xbox they used xbox.com, not xbox.microsoft.com. > > > > Being too hard on this migration will diminish a lot of the NetBeans > brand > > value not to mention search engine ranking. > > > >> > >>> Also, could we try a staged approach for this migration? We sort the > >> lists > >>> by number or users / activity and start migrating the smallest ones > first > >>> and leave the largest last?... > >> > >> I suggest migrating developers first and users later, once the dust > >> settles. > > > > > > I agree. > > > >
