Scott, thanks for saying it so well. I absolutely loathe and despise trying to get any real work done with a browser interface.
On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 8:06 AM, Scott Palmer <swpal...@gmail.com> wrote: > Sometimes I think the world has gone crazy. > > Here are a few simple observations: > - JavaFX is the best UI tech that Java has going for it these days. > - Swing/AWT has been heading towards obsolescence for several years now. > It works, but the future of desktop UI with Java is JavaFX. > - HTML is a HORRIBLE way to render an application. It works very poorly, > if at all, and not consistently across browsers. (Look what people have to > go through to try to get something as simple as a table with scrolling data > and static column headers, for example.) > - Javascript is junk. The interesting thing about stuff like Electron is > that they managed to get it to work at all. We give it extra credit simply > because it was done with technologies that make it so much harder to do. > (It also tends to be slow IMO.) That’s cute and all, but ultimately wasted > time. It would be that much better and cheaper to develop if done with > better tech like Java/JavaFX. > - The popularity of Web UIs has done a disservice to the development > community. They have lowered the bar so far that we accept the utter > rubbish and awful user experience of most web apps as ‘normal’. We have a > generation of developers that don’t even understand why Javascript is > garbage or how crippled applications are that run in a browser. Have you > noticed when you see an interesting web app that you are more impressed > because it is a web app? If it were a desktop app you wouldn’t give it a > second thought. > - I don’t know why anyone would want to bring HTML UI into a Java > application (when they don’t have to) as it is such a massive step > backwards. > > > So stopping running around like the sky is falling. Swing/AWT, JavaFX > aren’t going to disappear. Oracle wasn’t doing anything significant with > Swing. If they stop, we aren’t likely to notice. JavaFX is the greater > concern, because it is the better tech and still needs feature > development. The community around it can keep it going as long as there is > a consistent vision for it Ideas of using HTML for UI on a desktop app > programmed in Java are ridiculously insane. We already have a much better > cross-platform UI technology, no need to put work in to move backwards to > an inferior UI tech. > > Scott > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > > > >
