Let's keep thinking and talking about how to improve our toolset for unit tests 
(and ui tests).I would also add to the mix load and performance tests.
It is important that we do not only select the tools we consider important but 
also how we use them in OFBiz.
I have also some ideas floating in my brain about how to unit test services but 
not ready to share it at the moment.
But it is great to discuss about these things.

Jacopo

On Oct 6, 2014, at 8:44 AM, Hans Bakker <[email protected]> wrote:

> Jacopo, I stand corrected! yes indeed the wrong Issue.
> 
> not 2699 but OFBIZ-4053, you are right.
> 
> Thank you and Scott for supporting  the idea, so we get the quality of OFBiz 
> better.....
> 
> Left one open question to answer, how we are going to include user interface 
> tests.
> 
> Once we had selenium included, however it was removed....are there 
> alternatives?
> 
> Regards,'Hans
> 
> 
> On 06/10/14 13:31, Jacopo Cappellato wrote:
>> A few days ago Scott and I had already discussed about unit tests for the 
>> new query builder and they will come soon: the new API will not go into any 
>> release without unit tests.
>> In fact I think that Scott told you that he is not going to work on 
>> OFBIZ-5699 because he is busy with the query builder API at the moment: but 
>> that ticket is completely unrelated to it and I am not sure why you are 
>> asking him to work on it.
>> 
>> Jacopo
>> 
>> On Oct 6, 2014, at 8:14 AM, Hans Bakker <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> So Scott,
>>> 
>>> you introduce a new API named EntityQuery without a unit test, then you are 
>>> going to replace the existing well working API with something which is not 
>>> tested continuously....
>>> 
>>> i love the idea :-(
>>> 
>>> and then everybody asking for reliability and quality.....
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Hans
>>> 
>>> On 06/10/14 09:43, Scott Gray wrote:
>>>> On 6/10/2014, at 3:24 pm, Hans Bakker <[email protected]> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> On 06/10/14 09:15, Scott Gray wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Hans,
>>>>>> ..........
>>>>>> Lastly, the majority of our tests are implemented in mini-lang and I'm 
>>>>>> really not a fan of it at all.  If there were support for converting 
>>>>>> them to groovy (do we even support groovy tests?), I'd be glad to help 
>>>>>> lead that change.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> and then, start with OFBIZ-5699?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Regards,'Hans
>>>> That won't happen any time soon, I'll be dealing with the conversion to 
>>>> EntityQuery for the foreseeable future.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards
>>>> Scott
> 

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