I wonder where the respect for the volunteer (spending his precious time, scratching his itch, improving the product) is, when several PMC members felt the need to roll over each other *telling* that contributor to follow the *rules. *Especially when these rules are not rules, but rather advice/suggestions that *can* be followed.
Complaining about a suggestion not followed, especially multiple times, is clearly a sign of lack of appreciation of the contribution or respect for the contributor. It is neither improving efficiency*,* but rather counter-productive. And what is as bad, is the fact that the persons complaining don't adhere to their own advice. In stead of addressing their own actions *first* and addressing unassigned issues *secondly*, they thought they would score points when they singled out 1 contributor. That borders on harassment. To put it mildly. Pierre Smits ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com> OFBiz based solutions & services OFBiz Extensions Marketplace http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/ On Sat, Sep 10, 2016 at 12:56 PM, Jacques Le Roux < [email protected]> wrote: > I totally agree with you Taher! > > Just allow me a small amendment inline :) > > Le 10/09/2016 à 12:35, Taher Alkhateeb a écrit : > >> We adhere to these rules out of respect and appreciation to each other, >> not >> because of fear of consequences. >> > > We *NORMALLY* adhere to these rules out of respect and appreciation to > each other, not because of fear of consequences. > > There are (rare) cases where you need to be OFBiz police, notably with > brands and domains. > I did that in the past and I will continue... > > To be complete, I must says these case don't refer to OFBiz specific > rules/policies/etc. but to the ASF guidelines notably > http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/domains and globally > http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/resources > > Most of the time people don't clearly know about these "details" and act > on good faith. Simply asking them to follow the guidelines is enough. > > I think it was a good occasion to expose/remind these ASF rules/policies > Jacques > > > Taher Alkhateeb >> >> On Sep 10, 2016 12:19 PM, "Pierre Smits" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> A rule - in general - implies, that, when not adhered to, there will be >>> consequences. What will those consequences be? >>> Will the rule police then bitch at the contributor in the same manor as a >>> few did, when they felt the need to lecture me about how I prioritise my >>> itch? >>> >>> Food for thought. >>> >>> Best regards, >>> >>> Pierre Smits >>> >>> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com> >>> OFBiz based solutions & services >>> >>> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace >>> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/ >>> >>> On Sat, Sep 10, 2016 at 10:05 AM, Michael Brohl < >>> [email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Thanks, Jacopo :-) >>>> >>>> Do you think we can apply the template as a general rule? >>>> >>>> I will put it in the Wiki then and ask Committers to do their future >>>> commits in this way in case they have not followed this discussions or >>>> simply forgot. Maybe it will take some time to get used to it. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Michael >>>> >>>> >>>> Am 10.09.16 um 07:55 schrieb Jacopo Cappellato: >>>> >>>> On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 6:29 PM, Michael Brohl <[email protected] >>>> > >>>> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> ... >>>>> >>>>>> I've made my last commit using it and also saw that Jacopo (partly ;-) >>>>>> >>>>> ) >>> >>>> applied this in his latest commits. >>>>>> >>>>>> I have applied the new template to one commit and then I have >>>>>> forgotten >>>>>> >>>>> to >>>>> apply it to the second one and I was hoping you didn't notice it :-) >>>>> I have fixed the commit log now! >>>>> >>>>> Jacopo >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> >>>>>> Michael >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >
