Jacques, Pierre, please keep the focus on this thread's topic: "Proposal for a more unified commit message format". Otherwise, you will confuse and distract the community members that are interested in this subject.
Thank you, Jacopo On Sat, Sep 10, 2016 at 2:20 PM, Jacques Le Roux < [email protected]> wrote: > Just to say: not sure how it happened, but I see this thread as a new > thread with the same subject in Thunderbird. > > Jacques > > > > Le 10/09/2016 à 13:32, Pierre Smits a écrit : > >> I recommend you do that if you feel that need. >> >> Pierre Smits >> >> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com> >> OFBiz based solutions & services >> >> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace >> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/ >> >> On Sat, Sep 10, 2016 at 1:31 PM, Taher Alkhateeb < >> [email protected] >> >>> wrote: >>> This is now changing the subject of this thread. I recommend starting a >>> new >>> thread with your concerns clearly laid out. >>> >>> On Sep 10, 2016 2:24 PM, "Pierre Smits" <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> I wonder where the respect for the volunteer (spending his precious time, >>>> scratching his itch, improving the product) is, when several PMC members >>>> felt the need to roll over each other *telling* that contributor to >>>> >>> follow >>> >>>> the *rules. *Especially when these rules are not rules, but rather >>>> advice/suggestions that *can* be followed. >>>> >>>> Complaining about a suggestion not followed, especially multiple times, >>>> >>> is >>> >>>> clearly a sign of lack of appreciation of the contribution or respect >>>> for >>>> the contributor. It is neither improving efficiency*,* but rather >>>> counter-productive. >>>> >>>> And what is as bad, is the fact that the persons complaining don't >>>> adhere >>>> to their own advice. In stead of addressing their own actions *first* >>>> and >>>> addressing unassigned issues *secondly*, they thought they would score >>>> points when they singled out 1 contributor. >>>> >>>> That borders on harassment. To put it mildly. >>>> >>>> Pierre Smits >>>> >>>> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com> >>>> OFBiz based solutions & services >>>> >>>> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace >>>> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/ >>>> >>>> On Sat, Sep 10, 2016 at 12:56 PM, Jacques Le Roux < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> I totally agree with you Taher! >>>>> >>>>> Just allow me a small amendment inline :) >>>>> >>>>> Le 10/09/2016 à 12:35, Taher Alkhateeb a écrit : >>>>> >>>>> We adhere to these rules out of respect and appreciation to each >>>>>> >>>>> other, >>> >>>> not >>>>>> because of fear of consequences. >>>>>> >>>>>> We *NORMALLY* adhere to these rules out of respect and appreciation to >>>>> each other, not because of fear of consequences. >>>>> >>>>> There are (rare) cases where you need to be OFBiz police, notably with >>>>> brands and domains. >>>>> I did that in the past and I will continue... >>>>> >>>>> To be complete, I must says these case don't refer to OFBiz specific >>>>> rules/policies/etc. but to the ASF guidelines notably >>>>> http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/domains and globally >>>>> http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/resources >>>>> >>>>> Most of the time people don't clearly know about these "details" and >>>>> >>>> act >>> >>>> on good faith. Simply asking them to follow the guidelines is enough. >>>>> >>>>> I think it was a good occasion to expose/remind these ASF >>>>> >>>> rules/policies >>> >>>> Jacques >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Taher Alkhateeb >>>>> >>>>>> On Sep 10, 2016 12:19 PM, "Pierre Smits" <[email protected]> >>>>>> >>>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> A rule - in general - implies, that, when not adhered to, there will >>>>>> >>>>> be >>> >>>> consequences. What will those consequences be? >>>>>>> Will the rule police then bitch at the contributor in the same manor >>>>>>> >>>>>> as a >>>> >>>>> few did, when they felt the need to lecture me about how I prioritise >>>>>>> >>>>>> my >>>> >>>>> itch? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Food for thought. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Pierre Smits >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com> >>>>>>> OFBiz based solutions & services >>>>>>> >>>>>>> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace >>>>>>> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sat, Sep 10, 2016 at 10:05 AM, Michael Brohl < >>>>>>> [email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks, Jacopo :-) >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Do you think we can apply the template as a general rule? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I will put it in the Wiki then and ask Committers to do their future >>>>>>>> commits in this way in case they have not followed this discussions >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> or >>> >>>> simply forgot. Maybe it will take some time to get used to it. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Michael >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Am 10.09.16 um 07:55 schrieb Jacopo Cappellato: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 6:29 PM, Michael Brohl < >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> [email protected] >>>> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I've made my last commit using it and also saw that Jacopo (partly >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ;-) >>>> >>>>> ) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> applied this in his latest commits. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I have applied the new template to one commit and then I have >>>>>>>>>> forgotten >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>> apply it to the second one and I was hoping you didn't notice it >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> :-) >>> >>>> I have fixed the commit log now! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Jacopo >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Michael >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > -- > > Jacques Le Roux > 400E Chemin de la Mouline > 34560 Poussan > 04 67 51 19 38 > 06 11 79 50 28 > >
