I recommend you do that if you feel that need.

Pierre Smits

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On Sat, Sep 10, 2016 at 1:31 PM, Taher Alkhateeb <[email protected]
> wrote:

> This is now changing the subject of this thread. I recommend starting a new
> thread with your concerns clearly laid out.
>
> On Sep 10, 2016 2:24 PM, "Pierre Smits" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > I wonder where the respect for the volunteer (spending his precious time,
> > scratching his itch, improving the product) is, when several PMC members
> > felt the need to roll over each other *telling* that contributor to
> follow
> > the *rules. *Especially when these rules are not rules, but rather
> > advice/suggestions that *can* be followed.
> >
> > Complaining about a suggestion not followed, especially multiple times,
> is
> > clearly a sign of lack of appreciation of the contribution or respect for
> > the contributor. It is neither improving efficiency*,* but rather
> > counter-productive.
> >
> > And what is as bad, is the fact that the persons complaining don't adhere
> > to their own advice. In stead of addressing their own actions *first* and
> > addressing unassigned issues *secondly*, they thought they would score
> > points when they singled out 1 contributor.
> >
> > That borders on harassment. To put it mildly.
> >
> > Pierre Smits
> >
> > ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
> > OFBiz based solutions & services
> >
> > OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
> > http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
> >
> > On Sat, Sep 10, 2016 at 12:56 PM, Jacques Le Roux <
> > [email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > I totally agree with you Taher!
> > >
> > > Just allow me a small amendment inline :)
> > >
> > > Le 10/09/2016 à 12:35, Taher Alkhateeb a écrit :
> > >
> > >> We adhere to these rules out of respect and appreciation to each
> other,
> > >> not
> > >> because of fear of consequences.
> > >>
> > >
> > > We *NORMALLY* adhere to these rules out of respect and appreciation to
> > > each other, not because of fear of consequences.
> > >
> > > There are (rare) cases where you need to be OFBiz police, notably with
> > > brands and domains.
> > > I did that in the past and I will continue...
> > >
> > > To be complete, I must says these case don't refer to OFBiz specific
> > > rules/policies/etc. but to the ASF guidelines notably
> > > http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/domains and globally
> > > http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/resources
> > >
> > > Most of the time people don't clearly know about these "details" and
> act
> > > on good faith. Simply asking them to follow the guidelines is enough.
> > >
> > > I think it was a good occasion to expose/remind these ASF
> rules/policies
> > >   Jacques
> > >
> > >
> > > Taher Alkhateeb
> > >>
> > >> On Sep 10, 2016 12:19 PM, "Pierre Smits" <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> A rule - in general - implies, that, when not adhered to, there will
> be
> > >>> consequences. What will those consequences be?
> > >>> Will the rule police then bitch at the contributor in the same manor
> > as a
> > >>> few did, when they felt the need to lecture me about how I prioritise
> > my
> > >>> itch?
> > >>>
> > >>> Food for thought.
> > >>>
> > >>> Best regards,
> > >>>
> > >>> Pierre Smits
> > >>>
> > >>> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
> > >>> OFBiz based solutions & services
> > >>>
> > >>> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
> > >>> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
> > >>>
> > >>> On Sat, Sep 10, 2016 at 10:05 AM, Michael Brohl <
> > >>> [email protected]>
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks, Jacopo :-)
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Do you think we can apply the template as a general rule?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I will put it in the Wiki then and ask Committers to do their future
> > >>>> commits in this way in case they have not followed this discussions
> or
> > >>>> simply forgot. Maybe it will take some time to get used to it.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Thanks,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Michael
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Am 10.09.16 um 07:55 schrieb Jacopo Cappellato:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 6:29 PM, Michael Brohl <
> > [email protected]
> > >>>> >
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> ...
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> I've made my last commit using it and also saw that Jacopo (partly
> > ;-)
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>> )
> > >>>
> > >>>> applied this in his latest commits.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> I have applied the new template to one commit and then I have
> > >>>>>> forgotten
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>> to
> > >>>>> apply it to the second one and I was hoping you didn't notice it
> :-)
> > >>>>> I have fixed the commit log now!
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Jacopo
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Thanks,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> Michael
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >
> >
>

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