This is now changing the subject of this thread. I recommend starting a new thread with your concerns clearly laid out.
On Sep 10, 2016 2:24 PM, "Pierre Smits" <[email protected]> wrote: > I wonder where the respect for the volunteer (spending his precious time, > scratching his itch, improving the product) is, when several PMC members > felt the need to roll over each other *telling* that contributor to follow > the *rules. *Especially when these rules are not rules, but rather > advice/suggestions that *can* be followed. > > Complaining about a suggestion not followed, especially multiple times, is > clearly a sign of lack of appreciation of the contribution or respect for > the contributor. It is neither improving efficiency*,* but rather > counter-productive. > > And what is as bad, is the fact that the persons complaining don't adhere > to their own advice. In stead of addressing their own actions *first* and > addressing unassigned issues *secondly*, they thought they would score > points when they singled out 1 contributor. > > That borders on harassment. To put it mildly. > > Pierre Smits > > ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com> > OFBiz based solutions & services > > OFBiz Extensions Marketplace > http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/ > > On Sat, Sep 10, 2016 at 12:56 PM, Jacques Le Roux < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > I totally agree with you Taher! > > > > Just allow me a small amendment inline :) > > > > Le 10/09/2016 à 12:35, Taher Alkhateeb a écrit : > > > >> We adhere to these rules out of respect and appreciation to each other, > >> not > >> because of fear of consequences. > >> > > > > We *NORMALLY* adhere to these rules out of respect and appreciation to > > each other, not because of fear of consequences. > > > > There are (rare) cases where you need to be OFBiz police, notably with > > brands and domains. > > I did that in the past and I will continue... > > > > To be complete, I must says these case don't refer to OFBiz specific > > rules/policies/etc. but to the ASF guidelines notably > > http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/domains and globally > > http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/resources > > > > Most of the time people don't clearly know about these "details" and act > > on good faith. Simply asking them to follow the guidelines is enough. > > > > I think it was a good occasion to expose/remind these ASF rules/policies > > Jacques > > > > > > Taher Alkhateeb > >> > >> On Sep 10, 2016 12:19 PM, "Pierre Smits" <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> > >> A rule - in general - implies, that, when not adhered to, there will be > >>> consequences. What will those consequences be? > >>> Will the rule police then bitch at the contributor in the same manor > as a > >>> few did, when they felt the need to lecture me about how I prioritise > my > >>> itch? > >>> > >>> Food for thought. > >>> > >>> Best regards, > >>> > >>> Pierre Smits > >>> > >>> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com> > >>> OFBiz based solutions & services > >>> > >>> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace > >>> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/ > >>> > >>> On Sat, Sep 10, 2016 at 10:05 AM, Michael Brohl < > >>> [email protected]> > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>> Thanks, Jacopo :-) > >>>> > >>>> Do you think we can apply the template as a general rule? > >>>> > >>>> I will put it in the Wiki then and ask Committers to do their future > >>>> commits in this way in case they have not followed this discussions or > >>>> simply forgot. Maybe it will take some time to get used to it. > >>>> > >>>> Thanks, > >>>> > >>>> Michael > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Am 10.09.16 um 07:55 schrieb Jacopo Cappellato: > >>>> > >>>> On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 6:29 PM, Michael Brohl < > [email protected] > >>>> > > >>>> > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> ... > >>>>> > >>>>>> I've made my last commit using it and also saw that Jacopo (partly > ;-) > >>>>>> > >>>>> ) > >>> > >>>> applied this in his latest commits. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I have applied the new template to one commit and then I have > >>>>>> forgotten > >>>>>> > >>>>> to > >>>>> apply it to the second one and I was hoping you didn't notice it :-) > >>>>> I have fixed the commit log now! > >>>>> > >>>>> Jacopo > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Thanks, > >>>>> > >>>>>> Michael > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>> > > >
