Should it be in NOTES or README or both?
On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 4:08 PM, Alexei Fedotov <[email protected]>wrote: > Are there any objections to the following text? > > --- > Video/audio SIP integration is no longer a part of Apache release. > Check free red5sip product for this integration. > > We also introduced reliability testing for this release (great job, > Vasily Degtyarev!) For 1 hour long conferences the following does not > work with Openmeetings 2.1.1: > * Recordigs > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-669 > * Recent version with Adobe Flash (please downgrade to 11.5 version) > https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=885188 > * Multi-tabbing (no other flash application should be running in > different browsers or tabs) > --- > 26.06.2013 12:17 пользователь "Maxim Solodovnik" <[email protected]> > написал: > > > @Alexei, I believe red5sip issues should not affect OM release cycle. > > > > I was planning to release 2.1.1RC1. > > Please let me know if RC2 should be packed. (I see no need for this right > > now) > > > > In case README and/or NOTICE need to be changed I would really appreciate > > if anybody will send me the new text. > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 3:15 PM, [email protected] < > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > I know from the past that you have been not allowed to use the same > > device > > > in multiple Flash Applications at the same time. > > > In the past it was for example even like that: > > > If a microphone or camera device was taken, the Flash Plagin > *magically* > > > knew it and any further request to Microphone.get(); would return a > list > > of > > > Microphone _except_ the one that is already in use. > > > > > > So what I can confirm is: There have been problems already in the past > > > where you could not use the same Microphone in multiple Flash > > Applications > > > on the same device (no matter if you do that in multiple tabs or in IE > > and > > > Firefox). > > > > > > A general rule is: Only one application at a time should access the > > > Microphone (or Camera). For instance: Skype and OpenMeetings should not > > run > > > parallel and both use the Microphone at the same time (an exception > might > > > be if you really have two microphone devices physically with two > > separated > > > drivers et cetera). > > > > > > But I always thought that would be more like a common knowledge, its > > > actually true for any kind of Video-Conferencing or WebChat > application, > > > not even for browser or Flash related applications: Only one > application > > at > > > the same time should use Microphone or Camera. > > > > > > Sebastian > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2013/6/25 Alexei Fedotov <[email protected]> > > > > > > > Sebastian, > > > > > > > > My best guess about multi-tabs root cause is un-synchronized access > to > > > > video/audio coding internals (decoding works well) and inside Flash > > > > and device drivers. This makes crashes unpredictable. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями, > > > > Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов, > > > > http://dataved.ru/ > > > > +7 916 562 8095 > > > > > > > > [1] Start using Apache Openmeetings today, > > > http://openmeetings.apache.org/ > > > > [2] Join Alexei Fedotov @linkedin, > http://ru.linkedin.com/in/dataved/ > > > > [3] Join Alexei Fedotov @facebook, > > http://www.facebook.com/openmeetings > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 4:58 AM, [email protected] > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > * Multi-tabbing (no other flash application should be running in > > > > different > > > > > browsers or tabs)* > > > > > "This is a well-known problem with Flash on Linux" > > > > > => Then the sentence might be more like: > > > > > " Running multiple instance of OpenMeetings or Flash applications > on > > > > Linux > > > > > can cause issues with the stability of the Flash Plugin" > > > > > > > > > > My problem is more the general approach of all those release notes. > > > > > You generally say: Usage of multiple tabs is forbidden, while the > > > actual > > > > > use case is much more specific. > > > > > > > > > > Same for recordings, the documented use cases is fairly more > detailed > > > > then > > > > > the Release Notes indicate. > > > > > > > > > > Do you have a proposal for those Release Notes that would reflect > > more > > > > the > > > > > detailed level of discussion that we have done now? > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > Sebastian > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2013/6/25 Alexei Fedotov <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > > >> That was intended to be one sentence, (it is broken in the text) > > > > >> > > > > >> > For those who don't trust, let's try a recording session online > > and > > > > >> check. > > > > >> -- > > > > >> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями, > > > > >> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов, > > > > >> http://dataved.ru/ > > > > >> +7 916 562 8095 > > > > >> > > > > >> [1] Start using Apache Openmeetings today, > > > > http://openmeetings.apache.org/ > > > > >> [2] Join Alexei Fedotov @linkedin, > > http://ru.linkedin.com/in/dataved/ > > > > >> [3] Join Alexei Fedotov @facebook, > > > http://www.facebook.com/openmeetings > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 4:01 PM, Alexei Fedotov > > > > >> <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > >> > Artyom, > > > > >> > release notes are written for a user. Imagine you are one. Notes > > > > >> > should help you and tell > > > > >> > you that despite openmeetings.apache.org web site which > mentions > > > > >> > recordings they do not work for > > > > >> > real conferences in 2.1.1. If you learn this by trial and error, > > > > >> > it will take a lot of your time. > > > > >> > > > > > >> > Release notes are not intended to blame that someone breaks > > > something. > > > > >> > This is useless anyway because one can imagine the case when > > > > >> > Openmeetings breaks by itself (and we > > > > >> > get one with Adobe auto-updater). > > > > >> > > > > > >> > Sebastian, > > > > >> > The bug about recordings is not that good in description, still > > the > > > > >> > problem exists. We do recordings several times per week, and > soon > > > > >> > locate the problem root cause more accurately. Vasily reports > that > > > > >> > generic recording session works for no longer than 20 minutes > > > (longer > > > > >> > recording sessions are rare exceptions). > > > > >> > a recording session online and check. I myself did several in a > > row. > > > > >> > Taking into account the standard conference planning cycle is 1 > > > hour, > > > > >> > I think 20 minutes is not sufficient. > > > > >> > > > > > >> > For those who don't trust, let's try. The "try it" approach > > > magically > > > > >> > worked for multi-tabs and Irina, we > > > > >> > got a crash in few seconds. She seems much more convinced in her > > > last > > > > >> > letter, though this is only a part of the problem. Also > > multi-tabbed > > > > >> > openmeetings somehow corrupts windows microphone settings. > > > > >> > > > > > >> > As for memory consumption, locating a problem was more > difficult, > > > than > > > > >> > to believe into it now. IMHO Adobe developers have leaks in > codec > > > > >> > implementations (eg releasing memory for some video frames), > when > > we > > > > >> > do not free all resources explicitly (and cannot free > system-deep > > > > >> > resources). SIP integration has its own server resource leak, > this > > > one > > > > >> > is unrelated. > > > > >> > > > > > >> > While I personally want having SIP among the features (and do > test > > > it > > > > >> > several times a day), I'm ok with dropping it. Let's just > reflect > > > this > > > > >> > drop in the last release notes. This is important because we > > > announced > > > > >> > SIP integration several times, and the last time was in March. > > > > >> > > > > > >> > I'm not +1 with shipping a release which misses reported > features > > > > >> > without a proper note, because this potentially makes customers > > > > >> > unhappy. > > > > >> > > > > > >> > -- > > > > >> > With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями, > > > > >> > Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов, > > > > >> > http://dataved.ru/ > > > > >> > +7 916 562 8095 > > > > >> > > > > > >> > [1] Start using Apache Openmeetings today, > > > > >> http://openmeetings.apache.org/ > > > > >> > [2] Join Alexei Fedotov @linkedin, > > > http://ru.linkedin.com/in/dataved/ > > > > >> > [3] Join Alexei Fedotov @facebook, > > > > http://www.facebook.com/openmeetings > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 3:08 PM, [email protected] > > > > >> > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > >> >> Hi there, > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> regarding OPENMEETINGS-669 > > > > >> >> This has nothing todo with Release 2.1.1. I don't think it > should > > > be > > > > a > > > > >> note > > > > >> >> in the release notes. The comment in the Jira ticket *I have > > > retested > > > > >> on OM > > > > >> >> 3.0. Recording works without errors.* > > > > >> >> => This error can potentially happen with any version of > > > > OpenMeetings. > > > > >> >> I can clarify the details of how and when this can happen, > > however > > > > the > > > > >> root > > > > >> >> cause of the issue is not any new introduced functionality of > > > > >> OpenMeetings > > > > >> >> 2.1.1 and it has _nothing_ todo with the length of the > > recording. I > > > > >> would > > > > >> >> be very happy if there would be a concrete steps to reproduce > the > > > > issue > > > > >> in > > > > >> >> the Bug report. > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> regarding https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=885188 > > > > >> >> Does this bug happen also _without_ using the SIP integration? > > > > >> >> Also the Bug report clearly states that the inital report has > > > nothing > > > > >> todo > > > > >> >> with the second crash report in the ticket. > > > > >> >> I doubt that downgrading Flash Player will change the memory > > > > >> consumption, > > > > >> >> however that is also just a theory. The same theory that the > bug > > > > report > > > > >> >> asumes by saying *downgrading Flash solves the issue*. I don't > > > think > > > > >> that > > > > >> >> there is a general request for *downgrade to 11.5 version* of > > Flash > > > > >> Player. > > > > >> >> The bug report actually does not even mention which version > > exactly > > > > was > > > > >> >> tested and identified as buggy. So which version of the Flash > > > Player > > > > was > > > > >> >> this actually? And for instance which task exactly in the Flash > > > > Player > > > > >> has > > > > >> >> the memory leak? It could be for instance also a problem with > our > > > > >> >> Audio/Video Codec configuration in the conference room or > simply > > a > > > > >> problem > > > > >> >> with the cam/microphone driver on that particular device. > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> * Multi-tabbing (no other flash application should be running > in > > > > >> different > > > > >> >> browsers or tabs)* > > > > >> >> => I don't see any problem in running two instances of > > OpenMeetings > > > > >> next to > > > > >> >> each other, I do that all the time for testing. > > > > >> >> I don't think this Release Note should be added. What Irina > > > mentions > > > > is > > > > >> a > > > > >> >> specific use-case, but even that, I do that all the time > without > > > > >> issues. So > > > > >> >> there might be a problem but creating now the general > restriction > > > to > > > > >> have > > > > >> >> only a single tab opened all the time and close everything else > > > > seems a > > > > >> bit > > > > >> >> restricted. Maybe this phrase could be worded differently: > > > > >> >> *Running multiple Flash Applications or OpenMeetings instances > in > > > > >> multiple > > > > >> >> Tabs on the same device can lead to unexpected behaviour* > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> regarding OPENMEETINGS-677, OPENMEETINGS-678 > > > > >> >> What is it that we mention this in the Release Notes? > Integration > > > of > > > > >> >> SIP-Video is not on our list of current features. It would be a > > > nice > > > > >> >> feature, but why would you add it to the Release Notes if there > > is > > > an > > > > >> issue > > > > >> >> with it? It was not even announced yet that it would exist at > > all? > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> Thanks, > > > > >> >> Sebastian > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> 2013/6/24 Irina Arkhipets <[email protected]> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >>> Hi All, > > > > >> >>> > > > > >> >>> Reharding the multi-tabbing: > > > > >> >>> > > > > >> >>> Here is a link to the crash report I've received recently > when I > > > > tried > > > > >> to > > > > >> >>> sit in two different OpenMeetings rooms in the tabs of the > same > > > > >> Mozilla FF > > > > >> >>> browser: > > > > >> >>> > > > > >> >>> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/c448bb3d-18ef-45f6-aa66-7d8492130624 > > > > >> >>> > > > > >> >>> It looks like some known bug in the flash player: see the list > > of > > > > the > > > > >> >>> candidates in the bug report. > > > > >> >>> > > > > >> >>> It seems like I am able to sit in one OpenMeetings room from > two > > > > tabs > > > > >> of > > > > >> >>> the same browser as well as play youtube videos at the same > > > moment. > > > > >> >>> For me, the problems appear when I am trying to enter two > > > different > > > > >> rooms > > > > >> >>> in the same browser at the moment. > > > > >> >>> > > > > >> >>> Regards, > > > > >> >>> Irina. > > > > >> >>> > > > > >> >>> > > > > >> >>> On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 4:50 PM, Artyom Horuzhenko < > > > > [email protected] > > > > >> >>> >wrote: > > > > >> >>> > > > > >> >>> > Video/audio SIP integration has never been a part of > > > Openmeetings > > > > >> (as I > > > > >> >>> > know); > > > > >> >>> > Recordings didn't work before release, it's not new in > 2.1.1; > > > > >> >>> > There are troubles with recent version of Adobe Flash in > 2.1, > > > it's > > > > >> not > > > > >> >>> new > > > > >> >>> > too > > > > >> >>> > > > > > >> >>> > 2013/6/24 Alexei Fedotov <[email protected]> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > >> >>> > > Artyom, > > > > >> >>> > > I have updated the release notes with your input, and > > > additional > > > > >> input > > > > >> >>> > > from Irina. > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > >> >>> > > --- > > > > >> >>> > > Video/audio SIP integration is no longer a part of Apache > > > > release. > > > > >> >>> > > Check free red5sip product for this integration. > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > >> >>> > > We also introduced reliability testing for this release > > > (great > > > > >> job, > > > > >> >>> > > Vasily Degtyarev!). For 1 hour long conferences the > > following > > > > does > > > > >> not > > > > >> >>> > > work with Openmeetings 2.1.1: > > > > >> >>> > > * Recordigs > > > > >> >>> > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-669 > > > > >> >>> > > * Recent version with Adobe Flash (please downgrade to > 11.5 > > > > >> version) > > > > >> >>> > > https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=885188 > > > > >> >>> > > * Multi-tabbing (no other flash application should be > > running > > > in > > > > >> >>> > > different browsers or tabs) > > > > >> >>> > > --- > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > >> >>> > > -- > > > > >> >>> > > With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями, > > > > >> >>> > > Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов, > > > > >> >>> > > http://dataved.ru/ > > > > >> >>> > > +7 916 562 8095 > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > >> >>> > > [1] Start using Apache Openmeetings today, > > > > >> >>> > http://openmeetings.apache.org/ > > > > >> >>> > > [2] Join Alexei Fedotov @linkedin, > > > > >> http://ru.linkedin.com/in/dataved/ > > > > >> >>> > > [3] Join Alexei Fedotov @facebook, > > > > >> >>> http://www.facebook.com/openmeetings > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > >> >>> > > On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 12:55 PM, Artyom Horuzhenko < > > > > >> >>> [email protected]> > > > > >> >>> > > wrote: > > > > >> >>> > > > Alexei, we shouldn't worry about sip integeration in our > > > > releases > > > > >> >>> until > > > > >> >>> > > > red5sip is not an Openmeetings part. For example, let's > > > > imagine > > > > >> if > > > > >> >>> > Linux > > > > >> >>> > > > developers say: "We can't release new kernel because > > > > OpenOffice > > > > >> has > > > > >> >>> > > various > > > > >> >>> > > > document rendering bugs". And Adobe Flash is not good > > > example > > > > >> because > > > > >> >>> > > > Openmeetings uses flash, but red5sip uses Openmeetings > to > > > > provide > > > > >> >>> voip > > > > >> >>> > > > integration; all sip audio/video troubles are not cause > of > > > > >> >>> Openmeetings > > > > >> >>> > > > bugs. > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > > >> >>> > > > 2013/6/24 Alexei Fedotov <[email protected]> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > > >> >>> > > >> I'm constantly getting enlightened by many people that > > > > red4sip > > > > >> is > > > > >> >>> not > > > > >> >>> > > >> a part of Openmeetings. I'm well aware of that fact. > :-) > > > > Adobe > > > > >> Flash > > > > >> >>> > > >> is not a part of Openmeetings as well, and cause us the > > > > problems > > > > >> >>> > > >> anyway. > > > > >> >>> > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > >> If you program does not run on Linux, release notes > > should > > > > say, > > > > >> >>> "does > > > > >> >>> > > >> not run on Linux". IMHO, it's important to reference > > > > ecosystem > > > > >> >>> > > >> requirements in release notes. > > > > >> >>> > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > >> -- > > > > >> >>> > > >> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями, > > > > >> >>> > > >> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов, > > > > >> >>> > > >> http://dataved.ru/ > > > > >> >>> > > >> +7 916 562 8095 > > > > >> >>> > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > >> [1] Start using Apache Openmeetings today, > > > > >> >>> > > http://openmeetings.apache.org/ > > > > >> >>> > > >> [2] Join Alexei Fedotov @linkedin, > > > > >> >>> http://ru.linkedin.com/in/dataved/ > > > > >> >>> > > >> [3] Join Alexei Fedotov @facebook, > > > > >> >>> > http://www.facebook.com/openmeetings > > > > >> >>> > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > >> On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 11:59 AM, Alexei Fedotov > > > > >> >>> > > >> <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > >> >>> > > >> > The previous release was an important step for us, we > > > > >> graduated. > > > > >> >>> > Right > > > > >> >>> > > >> > now we should restore original "release" meaning by > > > > >> establishing > > > > >> >>> the > > > > >> >>> > > >> > quality. There are two steps in establishing the > > quality. > > > > >> >>> > > >> > > > > > >> >>> > > >> > 1. Define the quality. Vasily did a good job here. > > > > >> >>> > > >> > 2. Improving the quality. Here we can improve more. > > > > >> >>> > > >> > > > > > >> >>> > > >> > I want release notes being correct and agreed with > > > > >> participants. > > > > >> >>> > > >> > Taking Artyom comment into account, I wrote the > > following > > > > >> attempt > > > > >> >>> of > > > > >> >>> > > >> > release notes. > > > > >> >>> > > >> > > > > > >> >>> > > >> > The following no longer works with Openmeetings 2.1.1 > > > (for > > > > 1 > > > > >> hour > > > > >> >>> > long > > > > >> >>> > > >> > conferences) > > > > >> >>> > > >> > * Recordigs > > > > >> >>> > > >> > * Recent version with Adobe Flash (please downgrade > to > > > 11.5 > > > > >> >>> version) > > > > >> >>> > > >> > * Multi-tabbing (no other flash application should be > > > > running > > > > >> in > > > > >> >>> > > >> > different browsers or tabs) > > > > >> >>> > > >> > * Video/audio SIP integration (because it requires > > > another > > > > >> program > > > > >> >>> > we > > > > >> >>> > > >> > don't want to mention anymore) > > > > >> >>> > > >> > > > > > >> >>> > > >> > Vasily, could you please help adding bug numbers to > > each > > > > >> line of > > > > >> >>> > the > > > > >> >>> > > >> notes? > > > > >> >>> > > >> > The last item intentionally has a weird explanation, > > but > > > > >> that's > > > > >> >>> > what I > > > > >> >>> > > >> > get from Artyom's letter. Artyom, could you please > > > correct > > > > the > > > > >> >>> last > > > > >> >>> > > >> > item in a way you think correctly reflects the state > of > > > SIP > > > > >> >>> > > >> > integration? > > > > >> >>> > > >> > > > > > >> >>> > > >> > I think we can ship release with reflected problems, > > this > > > > may > > > > >> help > > > > >> >>> > > >> > users not to seek things they won't get. With these > > > release > > > > >> notes > > > > >> >>> > > >> > (improved with bug references and corrections) the > > > release > > > > >> gets my > > > > >> >>> > +1. > > > > >> >>> > > >> > > > > > >> >>> > > >> > -- > > > > >> >>> > > >> > With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями, > > > > >> >>> > > >> > Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов, > > > > >> >>> > > >> > http://dataved.ru/ > > > > >> >>> > > >> > +7 916 562 8095 > > > > >> >>> > > >> > > > > > >> >>> > > >> > [1] Start using Apache Openmeetings today, > > > > >> >>> > > >> http://openmeetings.apache.org/ > > > > >> >>> > > >> > [2] Join Alexei Fedotov @linkedin, > > > > >> >>> > http://ru.linkedin.com/in/dataved/ > > > > >> >>> > > >> > [3] Join Alexei Fedotov @facebook, > > > > >> >>> > > http://www.facebook.com/openmeetings > > > > >> >>> > > >> > > > > > >> >>> > > >> > > > > > >> >>> > > >> > On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 2:17 AM, > [email protected] > > > > >> >>> > > >> > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > >> >>> > > >> >> I think Artyom is right. Red5Sip is not the scope of > > the > > > > >> >>> > OpenMeetings > > > > >> >>> > > >> >> project. > > > > >> >>> > > >> >> Me might discuss on how we can make it the scope, if > > we > > > > are > > > > >> able > > > > >> >>> to > > > > >> >>> > > >> create > > > > >> >>> > > >> >> an Incubator project around Red5Sip. > > > > >> >>> > > >> >> > > > > >> >>> > > >> >> I think for the end user this discussion (scope or > > not) > > > > is a > > > > >> >>> rather > > > > >> >>> > > >> >> esoteric discussion as they are simply interested > in a > > > > >> working > > > > >> >>> > > product. > > > > >> >>> > > >> >> > > > > >> >>> > > >> >> However for the release, Artyom & Alexei, you are > both > > > PMC > > > > >> >>> members, > > > > >> >>> > > have > > > > >> >>> > > >> >> you an opinion about the 2.1.1 release? > > > > >> >>> > > >> >> > > > > >> >>> > > >> >> Thanks, > > > > >> >>> > > >> >> Sebastian > > > > >> >>> > > >> >> > > > > >> >>> > > >> >> > > > > >> >>> > > >> >> 2013/6/24 Artyom Horuzhenko <[email protected]> > > > > >> >>> > > >> >> > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> Hello Alexei, > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> I've just changed sip integration instruction a > > little > > > by > > > > >> adding > > > > >> >>> > > >> denoise > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> and dsp_drop_silence attributes and removed silent > > > > >> detection in > > > > >> >>> > > red5sip > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> because there were some problems with it. I think > we > > > > >> shouldn't > > > > >> >>> > > include > > > > >> >>> > > >> any > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> information about red5sip improvement into > > Openmeetings > > > > >> release > > > > >> >>> > > notes > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> because red5sip is another application. > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> 2013/6/23 Alexei Fedotov <[email protected] > > > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > Sebastian, I have tested audio SIP integration by > > > using > > > > >> SIP > > > > >> >>> > bridge > > > > >> >>> > > >> for > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > my own conferences. As a result, Artyom found out > > > that > > > > >> >>> disabling > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > jitter-buffer in the Asterisk configuration > > improves > > > > >> audio. > > > > >> >>> > > Artyom, > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > where one can find your findings on the Apache > web > > > > site? > > > > >> Does > > > > >> >>> it > > > > >> >>> > > >> worth > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > reflecting this in release notes? > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > -- > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями, > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов, > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > http://dataved.ru/ > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > +7 916 562 8095 > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > [1] Start using Apache Openmeetings today, > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> http://openmeetings.apache.org/ > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > [2] Join Alexei Fedotov @linkedin, > > > > >> >>> > > >> http://ru.linkedin.com/in/dataved/ > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > [3] Join Alexei Fedotov @facebook, > > > > >> >>> > > >> http://www.facebook.com/openmeetings > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 7:09 AM, > > > [email protected] > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > We have 3 +1 votes from PMCs. So in theory it > is > > > > >> possible. > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > However it would be good if there is some more > > > > feedback > > > > >> in > > > > >> >>> the > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> community > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > about that release. > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > Anybody else has been testing this release? > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > Sebastian > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > 2013/6/22 Maxim Solodovnik < > [email protected] > > > > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> I believe we should release rc1. > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> @Sebastian can you publish and announce the > > > release? > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> BTW I did paragliding from ~2300 meters in > > Turkey > > > > with > > > > >> >>> > > instructor > > > > >> >>> > > >> and > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > sky > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> acrobatics :) it was really amazing! :) > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> On Jun 22, 2013 3:36 AM, " > [email protected] > > " > > > < > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> [email protected] > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> wrote: > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > I could only find one minor issue: > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > > > > >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-681 > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > I think that is still good to go out as a > > > release. > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > +1 > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > Sebastian > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > 2013/6/22 [email protected] < > > > > >> [email protected]> > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > I am sorry for the delay. > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > The vote is now actually outdated. > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > Shall we restart the vote process for > 2.1.1 > > ? > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > Sebastian > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > 2013/6/10 [email protected] < > > > > >> [email protected] > > > > >> >>> > > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > Release vote happens on dev list, never on > > > > private. > > > > >> >>> > Please > > > > >> >>> > > >> vote on > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > dev, > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > as > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> the link to the dev list will be what we > > > > publish > > > > >> as a > > > > >> >>> > > result > > > > >> >>> > > >> of > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> the > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > vote. > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> I am sorry but I can't test before next > > week > > > > as I > > > > >> >>> don't > > > > >> >>> > > have > > > > >> >>> > > >> a > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> Internet > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> connection good enough while I travel > > abroad. > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> Thanks, > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> Sebastian > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> 2013/6/8 Maxim Solodovnik < > > > > [email protected]> > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> Dear OpenMeetings Community, > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> I would like to start a vote about > > releasing > > > > >> Apache > > > > >> >>> > > >> OpenMeetings > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> 2.1.1 > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> RC1 > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> Main changes are covered in the > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> Readme: > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > > > >> >>> > > http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openmeetings/tags/2.1.1RC1/README > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> Full Changelog: > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > >> > > http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openmeetings/tags/2.1.1RC1/CHANGELOG > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> Release artifacts: > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> > > > > >> >>> > > >> > > > > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/openmeetings/2.1.1/rc1/ > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> Tag: > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > > > http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openmeetings/tags/2.1.1RC1/ > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> PGP release keys (signed using > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> C467526E): > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/openmeetings/2.1.1/rc1/KEYS > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> Vote will be open for 72 hours. > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> [ ] +1 approve > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> [ ] +0 no opinion > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> [ ] -1 disapprove (and reason why) > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> My vote is +1. > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> -- > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> WBR > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> Maxim aka solomax > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> -- > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> Sebastian Wagner > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> http://www.webbase-design.de > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> [email protected] > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > -- > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > Sebastian Wagner > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > http://www.webbase-design.de > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > http://www.wagner-sebastian.com > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > [email protected] > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > -- > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > Sebastian Wagner > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > http://www.webbase-design.de > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > http://www.wagner-sebastian.com > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > [email protected] > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > -- > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > Sebastian Wagner > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > http://www.webbase-design.de > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > http://www.wagner-sebastian.com > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > [email protected] > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > > > >> >>> > > >> >> > > > > >> >>> > > >> >> > > > > >> >>> > > >> >> > > > > >> >>> > > >> >> -- > > > > >> >>> > > >> >> Sebastian Wagner > > > > >> >>> > > >> >> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock > > > > >> >>> > > >> >> http://www.webbase-design.de > > > > >> >>> > > >> >> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com > > > > >> >>> > > >> >> [email protected] > > > > >> >>> > > >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > >> >>> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> -- > > > > >> >> Sebastian Wagner > > > > >> >> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock > > > > >> >> http://www.webbase-design.de > > > > >> >> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com > > > > >> >> [email protected] > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Sebastian Wagner > > > > > https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock > > > > > http://www.webbase-design.de > > > > > http://www.wagner-sebastian.com > > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Sebastian Wagner > > > https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock > > > http://www.webbase-design.de > > > http://www.wagner-sebastian.com > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > WBR > > Maxim aka solomax > > > -- WBR Maxim aka solomax
