Are there any objections to the following text?

---
Video/audio SIP integration is no longer a part of Apache release.
Check free red5sip product for this integration.

We also  introduced reliability testing for this release (great job,
Vasily Degtyarev!) For 1 hour long conferences the following does not
work with Openmeetings 2.1.1:
* Recordigs
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-669
* Recent version with Adobe Flash (please downgrade to 11.5 version)
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=885188
* Multi-tabbing (no other flash application should be running in
different browsers or tabs)
---
26.06.2013 12:17 пользователь "Maxim Solodovnik" <[email protected]>
написал:

> @Alexei, I believe red5sip issues should not affect OM release cycle.
>
> I was planning to release 2.1.1RC1.
> Please let me know if RC2 should be packed. (I see no need for this right
> now)
>
> In case README and/or NOTICE need to be changed I would really appreciate
> if anybody will send me the new text.
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 3:15 PM, [email protected] <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> > I know from the past that you have been not allowed to use the same
> device
> > in multiple Flash Applications at the same time.
> > In the past it was for example even like that:
> > If a microphone or camera device was taken, the Flash Plagin *magically*
> > knew it and any further request to Microphone.get(); would return a list
> of
> > Microphone _except_ the one that is already in use.
> >
> > So what I can confirm is: There have been problems already in the past
> > where you could not use the same Microphone in multiple Flash
> Applications
> > on the same device (no matter if you do that in multiple tabs or in IE
> and
> > Firefox).
> >
> > A general rule is: Only one application at a time should access the
> > Microphone (or Camera). For instance: Skype and OpenMeetings should not
> run
> > parallel and both use the Microphone at the same time (an exception might
> > be if you really have two microphone devices physically with two
> separated
> > drivers et cetera).
> >
> > But I always thought that would be more like a common knowledge, its
> > actually true for any kind of Video-Conferencing or WebChat application,
> > not even for browser or Flash related applications: Only one application
> at
> > the same time should use Microphone or Camera.
> >
> > Sebastian
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 2013/6/25 Alexei Fedotov <[email protected]>
> >
> > > Sebastian,
> > >
> > > My best guess about multi-tabs root cause is un-synchronized access to
> > > video/audio coding internals (decoding works well) and inside Flash
> > > and device drivers.  This makes crashes unpredictable.
> > >
> > > --
> > > With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
> > > Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
> > > http://dataved.ru/
> > > +7 916 562 8095
> > >
> > > [1] Start using Apache Openmeetings today,
> > http://openmeetings.apache.org/
> > > [2] Join Alexei Fedotov @linkedin, http://ru.linkedin.com/in/dataved/
> > > [3] Join Alexei Fedotov @facebook,
> http://www.facebook.com/openmeetings
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 4:58 AM, [email protected]
> > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > * Multi-tabbing (no other flash application should be running in
> > > different
> > > > browsers or tabs)*
> > > > "This is a well-known problem with Flash on Linux"
> > > > => Then the sentence might be more like:
> > > > " Running multiple instance of OpenMeetings or Flash applications on
> > > Linux
> > > > can cause issues with the stability of the Flash Plugin"
> > > >
> > > > My problem is more the general approach of all those release notes.
> > > > You generally say: Usage of multiple tabs is forbidden, while the
> > actual
> > > > use case is much more specific.
> > > >
> > > > Same for recordings, the documented use cases is fairly more detailed
> > > then
> > > > the Release Notes indicate.
> > > >
> > > > Do you have a proposal for those Release Notes that would reflect
> more
> > > the
> > > > detailed level of discussion that we have done now?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Sebastian
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 2013/6/25 Alexei Fedotov <[email protected]>
> > > >
> > > >> That was intended to be one sentence, (it is broken in the text)
> > > >>
> > > >> > For those who don't trust, let's try a recording session online
> and
> > > >> check.
> > > >> --
> > > >> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
> > > >> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
> > > >> http://dataved.ru/
> > > >> +7 916 562 8095
> > > >>
> > > >> [1] Start using Apache Openmeetings today,
> > > http://openmeetings.apache.org/
> > > >> [2] Join Alexei Fedotov @linkedin,
> http://ru.linkedin.com/in/dataved/
> > > >> [3] Join Alexei Fedotov @facebook,
> > http://www.facebook.com/openmeetings
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 4:01 PM, Alexei Fedotov
> > > >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > >> > Artyom,
> > > >> > release notes are written for a user. Imagine you are one. Notes
> > > >> > should help you and tell
> > > >> > you that despite openmeetings.apache.org  web site which mentions
> > > >> > recordings they do not work for
> > > >> > real conferences in 2.1.1. If you learn this by trial and error,
> > > >> > it will take a lot of your time.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Release notes are not intended to blame that someone breaks
> > something.
> > > >> > This is useless anyway because one can imagine the case when
> > > >> > Openmeetings breaks by itself (and we
> > > >> > get one with Adobe auto-updater).
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Sebastian,
> > > >> > The bug about recordings is not that good in description, still
> the
> > > >> > problem exists. We do recordings several times per week, and soon
> > > >> > locate the problem root cause more accurately. Vasily reports that
> > > >> > generic recording session works for no longer than 20 minutes
> > (longer
> > > >> > recording sessions are rare exceptions).
> > > >> > a recording session online and check. I myself did several in a
> row.
> > > >> > Taking into account the standard conference planning cycle is 1
> > hour,
> > > >> > I think 20 minutes is not sufficient.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > For those who don't trust, let's try. The "try it" approach
> > magically
> > > >> > worked for multi-tabs and Irina, we
> > > >> > got a crash in few seconds. She seems much more convinced in her
> > last
> > > >> > letter, though this is only a part of the problem. Also
> multi-tabbed
> > > >> > openmeetings somehow corrupts windows microphone settings.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > As for memory consumption, locating a problem was more difficult,
> > than
> > > >> > to believe into it now. IMHO Adobe developers have leaks in codec
> > > >> > implementations (eg releasing memory for some video frames), when
> we
> > > >> > do not free all resources explicitly (and cannot free system-deep
> > > >> > resources). SIP integration has its own server resource leak, this
> > one
> > > >> > is unrelated.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > While I personally want having SIP among the features (and do test
> > it
> > > >> > several times a day), I'm ok with dropping it. Let's just reflect
> > this
> > > >> > drop in the last release notes. This is important because we
> > announced
> > > >> > SIP integration several times, and the last time was in March.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > I'm not +1 with shipping a release which misses reported features
> > > >> > without a proper note, because this potentially makes customers
> > > >> > unhappy.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > --
> > > >> > With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
> > > >> > Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
> > > >> > http://dataved.ru/
> > > >> > +7 916 562 8095
> > > >> >
> > > >> > [1] Start using Apache Openmeetings today,
> > > >> http://openmeetings.apache.org/
> > > >> > [2] Join Alexei Fedotov @linkedin,
> > http://ru.linkedin.com/in/dataved/
> > > >> > [3] Join Alexei Fedotov @facebook,
> > > http://www.facebook.com/openmeetings
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 3:08 PM, [email protected]
> > > >> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > >> >> Hi there,
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> regarding OPENMEETINGS-669
> > > >> >> This has nothing todo with Release 2.1.1. I don't think it should
> > be
> > > a
> > > >> note
> > > >> >> in the release notes. The comment in the Jira ticket *I have
> > retested
> > > >> on OM
> > > >> >> 3.0. Recording works without errors.*
> > > >> >> => This error can potentially happen with any version of
> > > OpenMeetings.
> > > >> >> I can clarify the details of how and when this can happen,
> however
> > > the
> > > >> root
> > > >> >> cause of the issue is not any new introduced functionality of
> > > >> OpenMeetings
> > > >> >> 2.1.1 and it has _nothing_ todo with the length of the
> recording. I
> > > >> would
> > > >> >> be very happy if there would be a concrete steps to reproduce the
> > > issue
> > > >> in
> > > >> >> the Bug report.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> regarding https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=885188
> > > >> >> Does this bug happen also _without_ using the SIP integration?
> > > >> >> Also the Bug report clearly states that the inital report has
> > nothing
> > > >> todo
> > > >> >> with the second crash report in the ticket.
> > > >> >> I doubt that downgrading Flash Player will change the memory
> > > >> consumption,
> > > >> >> however that is also just a theory. The same theory that the bug
> > > report
> > > >> >> asumes by saying *downgrading Flash solves the issue*. I don't
> > think
> > > >> that
> > > >> >> there is a general request for *downgrade to 11.5 version* of
> Flash
> > > >> Player.
> > > >> >> The bug report actually does not even mention which version
> exactly
> > > was
> > > >> >> tested and identified as buggy. So which version of the Flash
> > Player
> > > was
> > > >> >> this actually? And for instance which task exactly in the Flash
> > > Player
> > > >> has
> > > >> >> the memory leak? It could be for instance also a problem with our
> > > >> >> Audio/Video Codec configuration in the conference room or simply
> a
> > > >> problem
> > > >> >> with the cam/microphone driver on that particular device.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> * Multi-tabbing (no other flash application should be running in
> > > >> different
> > > >> >> browsers or tabs)*
> > > >> >> => I don't see any problem in running two instances of
> OpenMeetings
> > > >> next to
> > > >> >> each other, I do that all the time for testing.
> > > >> >> I don't think this Release Note should be added. What Irina
> > mentions
> > > is
> > > >> a
> > > >> >> specific use-case, but even that, I do that all the time without
> > > >> issues. So
> > > >> >> there might be a problem but creating now the general restriction
> > to
> > > >> have
> > > >> >> only a single tab opened all the time and close everything else
> > > seems a
> > > >> bit
> > > >> >> restricted. Maybe this phrase could be worded differently:
> > > >> >> *Running multiple Flash Applications or OpenMeetings instances in
> > > >> multiple
> > > >> >> Tabs on the same device can lead to unexpected behaviour*
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> regarding OPENMEETINGS-677, OPENMEETINGS-678
> > > >> >> What is it that we mention this in the Release Notes? Integration
> > of
> > > >> >> SIP-Video is not on our list of current features. It would be a
> > nice
> > > >> >> feature, but why would you add it to the Release Notes if there
> is
> > an
> > > >> issue
> > > >> >> with it? It was not even announced yet that it would exist at
> all?
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Thanks,
> > > >> >> Sebastian
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> 2013/6/24 Irina Arkhipets <[email protected]>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>> Hi All,
> > > >> >>>
> > > >> >>> Reharding the multi-tabbing:
> > > >> >>>
> > > >> >>> Here is a link to the crash report I've received recently when I
> > > tried
> > > >> to
> > > >> >>> sit in two different OpenMeetings rooms in the tabs of the same
> > > >> Mozilla FF
> > > >> >>> browser:
> > > >> >>>
> > > >> >>>
> > > >>
> > >
> >
> https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/c448bb3d-18ef-45f6-aa66-7d8492130624
> > > >> >>>
> > > >> >>> It looks like some known bug in the flash player: see the list
> of
> > > the
> > > >> >>> candidates in the bug report.
> > > >> >>>
> > > >> >>> It seems like I am able to sit in one OpenMeetings room from two
> > > tabs
> > > >> of
> > > >> >>> the same browser as well as play youtube videos at the same
> > moment.
> > > >> >>> For me, the problems appear when I am trying to enter two
> > different
> > > >> rooms
> > > >> >>> in the same browser at the moment.
> > > >> >>>
> > > >> >>> Regards,
> > > >> >>> Irina.
> > > >> >>>
> > > >> >>>
> > > >> >>> On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 4:50 PM, Artyom Horuzhenko <
> > > [email protected]
> > > >> >>> >wrote:
> > > >> >>>
> > > >> >>> > Video/audio SIP integration has never been a part of
> > Openmeetings
> > > >> (as I
> > > >> >>> > know);
> > > >> >>> > Recordings didn't work before release, it's not new in 2.1.1;
> > > >> >>> > There are troubles with recent version of Adobe Flash in 2.1,
> > it's
> > > >> not
> > > >> >>> new
> > > >> >>> > too
> > > >> >>> >
> > > >> >>> > 2013/6/24 Alexei Fedotov <[email protected]>
> > > >> >>> >
> > > >> >>> > > Artyom,
> > > >> >>> > > I have updated the release notes with your input, and
> > additional
> > > >> input
> > > >> >>> > > from Irina.
> > > >> >>> > >
> > > >> >>> > > ---
> > > >> >>> > > Video/audio SIP integration is no longer a part of Apache
> > > release.
> > > >> >>> > > Check free red5sip product for this integration.
> > > >> >>> > >
> > > >> >>> > > We also  introduced reliability testing for this release
> > (great
> > > >> job,
> > > >> >>> > > Vasily Degtyarev!). For 1 hour long conferences the
> following
> > > does
> > > >> not
> > > >> >>> > > work with Openmeetings 2.1.1:
> > > >> >>> > > * Recordigs
> > > >> >>> > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-669
> > > >> >>> > > * Recent version with Adobe Flash (please downgrade to 11.5
> > > >> version)
> > > >> >>> > > https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=885188
> > > >> >>> > > * Multi-tabbing (no other flash application should be
> running
> > in
> > > >> >>> > > different browsers or tabs)
> > > >> >>> > > ---
> > > >> >>> > >
> > > >> >>> > >
> > > >> >>> > > --
> > > >> >>> > > With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
> > > >> >>> > > Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
> > > >> >>> > > http://dataved.ru/
> > > >> >>> > > +7 916 562 8095
> > > >> >>> > >
> > > >> >>> > > [1] Start using Apache Openmeetings today,
> > > >> >>> > http://openmeetings.apache.org/
> > > >> >>> > > [2] Join Alexei Fedotov @linkedin,
> > > >> http://ru.linkedin.com/in/dataved/
> > > >> >>> > > [3] Join Alexei Fedotov @facebook,
> > > >> >>> http://www.facebook.com/openmeetings
> > > >> >>> > >
> > > >> >>> > >
> > > >> >>> > > On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 12:55 PM, Artyom Horuzhenko <
> > > >> >>> [email protected]>
> > > >> >>> > > wrote:
> > > >> >>> > > > Alexei, we shouldn't worry about sip integeration in our
> > > releases
> > > >> >>> until
> > > >> >>> > > > red5sip is not an Openmeetings part. For example, let's
> > > imagine
> > > >> if
> > > >> >>> > Linux
> > > >> >>> > > > developers say: "We can't release new kernel because
> > > OpenOffice
> > > >> has
> > > >> >>> > > various
> > > >> >>> > > > document rendering bugs". And Adobe Flash is not good
> > example
> > > >> because
> > > >> >>> > > > Openmeetings uses flash, but red5sip uses Openmeetings to
> > > provide
> > > >> >>> voip
> > > >> >>> > > > integration; all sip audio/video troubles are not cause of
> > > >> >>> Openmeetings
> > > >> >>> > > > bugs.
> > > >> >>> > > >
> > > >> >>> > > >
> > > >> >>> > > > 2013/6/24 Alexei Fedotov <[email protected]>
> > > >> >>> > > >
> > > >> >>> > > >> I'm constantly getting enlightened by many people that
> > > red4sip
> > > >> is
> > > >> >>> not
> > > >> >>> > > >> a part of Openmeetings. I'm well aware of that fact. :-)
> > > Adobe
> > > >> Flash
> > > >> >>> > > >> is not a part of Openmeetings as well, and cause us the
> > > problems
> > > >> >>> > > >> anyway.
> > > >> >>> > > >>
> > > >> >>> > > >> If you program does not run on Linux, release notes
> should
> > > say,
> > > >> >>> "does
> > > >> >>> > > >> not run on Linux". IMHO, it's important to reference
> > > ecosystem
> > > >> >>> > > >> requirements in release notes.
> > > >> >>> > > >>
> > > >> >>> > > >>
> > > >> >>> > > >> --
> > > >> >>> > > >> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
> > > >> >>> > > >> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
> > > >> >>> > > >> http://dataved.ru/
> > > >> >>> > > >> +7 916 562 8095
> > > >> >>> > > >>
> > > >> >>> > > >> [1] Start using Apache Openmeetings today,
> > > >> >>> > > http://openmeetings.apache.org/
> > > >> >>> > > >> [2] Join Alexei Fedotov @linkedin,
> > > >> >>> http://ru.linkedin.com/in/dataved/
> > > >> >>> > > >> [3] Join Alexei Fedotov @facebook,
> > > >> >>> > http://www.facebook.com/openmeetings
> > > >> >>> > > >>
> > > >> >>> > > >>
> > > >> >>> > > >> On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 11:59 AM, Alexei Fedotov
> > > >> >>> > > >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > >> >>> > > >> > The previous release was an important step for us, we
> > > >> graduated.
> > > >> >>> > Right
> > > >> >>> > > >> > now we should restore original "release" meaning by
> > > >> establishing
> > > >> >>> the
> > > >> >>> > > >> > quality. There are two steps in establishing the
> quality.
> > > >> >>> > > >> >
> > > >> >>> > > >> > 1. Define the quality. Vasily did a good job here.
> > > >> >>> > > >> > 2. Improving the quality. Here we can improve more.
> > > >> >>> > > >> >
> > > >> >>> > > >> > I want release notes being correct and agreed with
> > > >> participants.
> > > >> >>> > > >> > Taking Artyom comment into account, I wrote the
> following
> > > >> attempt
> > > >> >>> of
> > > >> >>> > > >> > release notes.
> > > >> >>> > > >> >
> > > >> >>> > > >> > The following no longer works with Openmeetings 2.1.1
> > (for
> > > 1
> > > >> hour
> > > >> >>> > long
> > > >> >>> > > >> > conferences)
> > > >> >>> > > >> > * Recordigs
> > > >> >>> > > >> > * Recent version with Adobe Flash (please downgrade to
> > 11.5
> > > >> >>> version)
> > > >> >>> > > >> > * Multi-tabbing (no other flash application should be
> > > running
> > > >> in
> > > >> >>> > > >> > different browsers or tabs)
> > > >> >>> > > >> > * Video/audio SIP integration (because it requires
> > another
> > > >> program
> > > >> >>> > we
> > > >> >>> > > >> > don't want to mention anymore)
> > > >> >>> > > >> >
> > > >> >>> > > >> > Vasily,  could you please help adding bug numbers to
> each
> > > >> line of
> > > >> >>> > the
> > > >> >>> > > >> notes?
> > > >> >>> > > >> > The last item intentionally has a weird explanation,
> but
> > > >> that's
> > > >> >>> > what I
> > > >> >>> > > >> > get from Artyom's letter. Artyom, could you please
> > correct
> > > the
> > > >> >>> last
> > > >> >>> > > >> > item in a way you think correctly reflects the state of
> > SIP
> > > >> >>> > > >> > integration?
> > > >> >>> > > >> >
> > > >> >>> > > >> > I think we can ship release with reflected problems,
> this
> > > may
> > > >> help
> > > >> >>> > > >> > users not to seek things they won't get. With these
> > release
> > > >> notes
> > > >> >>> > > >> > (improved with bug references and corrections) the
> > release
> > > >> gets my
> > > >> >>> > +1.
> > > >> >>> > > >> >
> > > >> >>> > > >> > --
> > > >> >>> > > >> > With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
> > > >> >>> > > >> > Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
> > > >> >>> > > >> > http://dataved.ru/
> > > >> >>> > > >> > +7 916 562 8095
> > > >> >>> > > >> >
> > > >> >>> > > >> > [1] Start using Apache Openmeetings today,
> > > >> >>> > > >> http://openmeetings.apache.org/
> > > >> >>> > > >> > [2] Join Alexei Fedotov @linkedin,
> > > >> >>> > http://ru.linkedin.com/in/dataved/
> > > >> >>> > > >> > [3] Join Alexei Fedotov @facebook,
> > > >> >>> > > http://www.facebook.com/openmeetings
> > > >> >>> > > >> >
> > > >> >>> > > >> >
> > > >> >>> > > >> > On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 2:17 AM, [email protected]
> > > >> >>> > > >> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > >> >>> > > >> >> I think Artyom is right. Red5Sip is not the scope of
> the
> > > >> >>> > OpenMeetings
> > > >> >>> > > >> >> project.
> > > >> >>> > > >> >> Me might discuss on how we can make it the scope, if
> we
> > > are
> > > >> able
> > > >> >>> to
> > > >> >>> > > >> create
> > > >> >>> > > >> >> an Incubator project around Red5Sip.
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>> > > >> >> I think for the end user this discussion (scope or
> not)
> > > is a
> > > >> >>> rather
> > > >> >>> > > >> >> esoteric discussion as they are simply interested in a
> > > >> working
> > > >> >>> > > product.
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>> > > >> >> However for the release, Artyom & Alexei, you are both
> > PMC
> > > >> >>> members,
> > > >> >>> > > have
> > > >> >>> > > >> >> you an opinion about the 2.1.1 release?
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>> > > >> >> Thanks,
> > > >> >>> > > >> >> Sebastian
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>> > > >> >> 2013/6/24 Artyom Horuzhenko <[email protected]>
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> Hello Alexei,
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>>
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> I've just changed sip integration instruction a
> little
> > by
> > > >> adding
> > > >> >>> > > >> denoise
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> and dsp_drop_silence attributes and removed silent
> > > >> detection in
> > > >> >>> > > red5sip
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> because there were some problems with it. I think we
> > > >> shouldn't
> > > >> >>> > > include
> > > >> >>> > > >> any
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> information about red5sip improvement into
> Openmeetings
> > > >> release
> > > >> >>> > > notes
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> because red5sip is another application.
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>>
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>>
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> 2013/6/23 Alexei Fedotov <[email protected]>
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>>
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > Sebastian, I have tested audio SIP integration by
> > using
> > > >> SIP
> > > >> >>> > bridge
> > > >> >>> > > >> for
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > my own conferences. As a result, Artyom found out
> > that
> > > >> >>> disabling
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > jitter-buffer in the Asterisk configuration
> improves
> > > >> audio.
> > > >> >>> > > Artyom,
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > where one can find your findings on the Apache web
> > > site?
> > > >> Does
> > > >> >>> it
> > > >> >>> > > >> worth
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > reflecting this in release notes?
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> >
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > --
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > http://dataved.ru/
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > +7 916 562 8095
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> >
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > [1] Start using Apache Openmeetings today,
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> http://openmeetings.apache.org/
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > [2] Join Alexei Fedotov @linkedin,
> > > >> >>> > > >> http://ru.linkedin.com/in/dataved/
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > [3] Join Alexei Fedotov @facebook,
> > > >> >>> > > >> http://www.facebook.com/openmeetings
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> >
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> >
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 7:09 AM,
> > [email protected]
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > We have 3 +1 votes from PMCs. So in theory it is
> > > >> possible.
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > However it would be good if there is some more
> > > feedback
> > > >> in
> > > >> >>> the
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> community
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > about that release.
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > Anybody else has been testing this release?
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > Sebastian
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > 2013/6/22 Maxim Solodovnik <[email protected]
> >
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> I believe we should release rc1.
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >>
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> @Sebastian can you publish and announce the
> > release?
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >>
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> BTW I did paragliding from ~2300 meters in
> Turkey
> > > with
> > > >> >>> > > instructor
> > > >> >>> > > >> and
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > sky
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> acrobatics :) it was really amazing! :)
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> On Jun 22, 2013 3:36 AM, "[email protected]
> "
> > <
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> [email protected]
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> wrote:
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >>
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > I could only find one minor issue:
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> >
> > > >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-681
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> >
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > I think that is still good to go out as a
> > release.
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> >
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > +1
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> >
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > Sebastian
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> >
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> >
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > 2013/6/22 [email protected] <
> > > >> [email protected]>
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> >
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > I am sorry for the delay.
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > The vote is now actually outdated.
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > Shall we restart the vote process for 2.1.1
> ?
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > Sebastian
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > 2013/6/10 [email protected] <
> > > >> [email protected]
> > > >> >>> >
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > Release vote happens on dev list, never on
> > > private.
> > > >> >>> > Please
> > > >> >>> > > >> vote on
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > dev,
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > as
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> the link to the dev list will be what we
> > > publish
> > > >> as a
> > > >> >>> > > result
> > > >> >>> > > >> of
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> the
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > vote.
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> I am sorry but I can't test before next
> week
> > > as I
> > > >> >>> don't
> > > >> >>> > > have
> > > >> >>> > > >> a
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> Internet
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> connection good enough while I travel
> abroad.
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> Thanks,
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> Sebastian
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> 2013/6/8 Maxim Solodovnik <
> > > [email protected]>
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> Dear OpenMeetings Community,
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>>
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> I would like to start a vote about
> releasing
> > > >> Apache
> > > >> >>> > > >> OpenMeetings
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> 2.1.1
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> RC1
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>>
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> Main changes are covered in the
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>>
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> Readme:
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>>
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>>
> > > >> >>>
> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openmeetings/tags/2.1.1RC1/README
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>>
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>>
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> Full Changelog:
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>>
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> >
> > > >> >>> > >
> > > >>
> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openmeetings/tags/2.1.1RC1/CHANGELOG
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>>
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> Release artifacts:
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>>
> > > >> >>> > > >>
> > > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/openmeetings/2.1.1/rc1/
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>>
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> Tag:
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>>
> > > http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openmeetings/tags/2.1.1RC1/
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>>
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> PGP release keys (signed using
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> C467526E):
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>>
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> >
> > > >> >>> > >
> > > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/openmeetings/2.1.1/rc1/KEYS
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>>
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> Vote will be open for 72 hours.
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>>
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> [ ] +1  approve
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> [ ] +0  no opinion
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> [ ] -1  disapprove (and reason why)
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>>
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> My vote is +1.
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>>
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>>
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>>
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> --
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> WBR
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> Maxim aka solomax
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>>
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> --
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> Sebastian Wagner
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> http://www.webbase-design.de
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> [email protected]
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > --
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > Sebastian Wagner
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > http://www.webbase-design.de
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > [email protected]
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> >
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> >
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> >
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > --
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > Sebastian Wagner
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > http://www.webbase-design.de
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > [email protected]
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> >
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >>
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > --
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > Sebastian Wagner
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > http://www.webbase-design.de
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > [email protected]
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> >
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>>
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>> > > >> >> --
> > > >> >>> > > >> >> Sebastian Wagner
> > > >> >>> > > >> >> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
> > > >> >>> > > >> >> http://www.webbase-design.de
> > > >> >>> > > >> >> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
> > > >> >>> > > >> >> [email protected]
> > > >> >>> > > >>
> > > >> >>> > >
> > > >> >>> >
> > > >> >>>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> --
> > > >> >> Sebastian Wagner
> > > >> >> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
> > > >> >> http://www.webbase-design.de
> > > >> >> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
> > > >> >> [email protected]
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Sebastian Wagner
> > > > https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
> > > > http://www.webbase-design.de
> > > > http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
> > > > [email protected]
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Sebastian Wagner
> > https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
> > http://www.webbase-design.de
> > http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
> > [email protected]
> >
>
>
>
> --
> WBR
> Maxim aka solomax
>

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