In my opinion release notes should contain Openmeetings changes since last release only, so: 1. Recordings didn't work in 2.1 and still don't work. We have no changes and there are nothing to write in release notes about them. 2. red5sip has never been Openmeetings part and we shouldn't write anything about it (at least this year). 3. I don't know anything about flash and multi-tabbing, it works fine for me, but we could write about it in the "Known issues" section.
2013/6/26 Maxim Solodovnik <[email protected]> > Does anybody has any objections/additions to this? > > > On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 4:38 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <[email protected] > >wrote: > > > Should it be in NOTES or README or both? > > > > > > On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 4:08 PM, Alexei Fedotov < > [email protected]>wrote: > > > >> Are there any objections to the following text? > >> > >> --- > >> Video/audio SIP integration is no longer a part of Apache release. > >> Check free red5sip product for this integration. > >> > >> We also introduced reliability testing for this release (great job, > >> Vasily Degtyarev!) For 1 hour long conferences the following does not > >> work with Openmeetings 2.1.1: > >> * Recordigs > >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-669 > >> * Recent version with Adobe Flash (please downgrade to 11.5 version) > >> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=885188 > >> * Multi-tabbing (no other flash application should be running in > >> different browsers or tabs) > >> --- > >> 26.06.2013 12:17 пользователь "Maxim Solodovnik" <[email protected]> > >> написал: > >> > >> > @Alexei, I believe red5sip issues should not affect OM release cycle. > >> > > >> > I was planning to release 2.1.1RC1. > >> > Please let me know if RC2 should be packed. (I see no need for this > >> right > >> > now) > >> > > >> > In case README and/or NOTICE need to be changed I would really > >> appreciate > >> > if anybody will send me the new text. > >> > > >> > > >> > On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 3:15 PM, [email protected] < > >> > [email protected]> wrote: > >> > > >> > > I know from the past that you have been not allowed to use the same > >> > device > >> > > in multiple Flash Applications at the same time. > >> > > In the past it was for example even like that: > >> > > If a microphone or camera device was taken, the Flash Plagin > >> *magically* > >> > > knew it and any further request to Microphone.get(); would return a > >> list > >> > of > >> > > Microphone _except_ the one that is already in use. > >> > > > >> > > So what I can confirm is: There have been problems already in the > past > >> > > where you could not use the same Microphone in multiple Flash > >> > Applications > >> > > on the same device (no matter if you do that in multiple tabs or in > IE > >> > and > >> > > Firefox). > >> > > > >> > > A general rule is: Only one application at a time should access the > >> > > Microphone (or Camera). For instance: Skype and OpenMeetings should > >> not > >> > run > >> > > parallel and both use the Microphone at the same time (an exception > >> might > >> > > be if you really have two microphone devices physically with two > >> > separated > >> > > drivers et cetera). > >> > > > >> > > But I always thought that would be more like a common knowledge, its > >> > > actually true for any kind of Video-Conferencing or WebChat > >> application, > >> > > not even for browser or Flash related applications: Only one > >> application > >> > at > >> > > the same time should use Microphone or Camera. > >> > > > >> > > Sebastian > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > 2013/6/25 Alexei Fedotov <[email protected]> > >> > > > >> > > > Sebastian, > >> > > > > >> > > > My best guess about multi-tabs root cause is un-synchronized > access > >> to > >> > > > video/audio coding internals (decoding works well) and inside > Flash > >> > > > and device drivers. This makes crashes unpredictable. > >> > > > > >> > > > -- > >> > > > With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями, > >> > > > Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов, > >> > > > http://dataved.ru/ > >> > > > +7 916 562 8095 > >> > > > > >> > > > [1] Start using Apache Openmeetings today, > >> > > http://openmeetings.apache.org/ > >> > > > [2] Join Alexei Fedotov @linkedin, > >> http://ru.linkedin.com/in/dataved/ > >> > > > [3] Join Alexei Fedotov @facebook, > >> > http://www.facebook.com/openmeetings > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 4:58 AM, [email protected] > >> > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > > > > * Multi-tabbing (no other flash application should be running in > >> > > > different > >> > > > > browsers or tabs)* > >> > > > > "This is a well-known problem with Flash on Linux" > >> > > > > => Then the sentence might be more like: > >> > > > > " Running multiple instance of OpenMeetings or Flash > applications > >> on > >> > > > Linux > >> > > > > can cause issues with the stability of the Flash Plugin" > >> > > > > > >> > > > > My problem is more the general approach of all those release > >> notes. > >> > > > > You generally say: Usage of multiple tabs is forbidden, while > the > >> > > actual > >> > > > > use case is much more specific. > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Same for recordings, the documented use cases is fairly more > >> detailed > >> > > > then > >> > > > > the Release Notes indicate. > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Do you have a proposal for those Release Notes that would > reflect > >> > more > >> > > > the > >> > > > > detailed level of discussion that we have done now? > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Thanks, > >> > > > > Sebastian > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > 2013/6/25 Alexei Fedotov <[email protected]> > >> > > > > > >> > > > >> That was intended to be one sentence, (it is broken in the > text) > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > For those who don't trust, let's try a recording session > online > >> > and > >> > > > >> check. > >> > > > >> -- > >> > > > >> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями, > >> > > > >> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов, > >> > > > >> http://dataved.ru/ > >> > > > >> +7 916 562 8095 > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> [1] Start using Apache Openmeetings today, > >> > > > http://openmeetings.apache.org/ > >> > > > >> [2] Join Alexei Fedotov @linkedin, > >> > http://ru.linkedin.com/in/dataved/ > >> > > > >> [3] Join Alexei Fedotov @facebook, > >> > > http://www.facebook.com/openmeetings > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 4:01 PM, Alexei Fedotov > >> > > > >> <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > > > >> > Artyom, > >> > > > >> > release notes are written for a user. Imagine you are one. > >> Notes > >> > > > >> > should help you and tell > >> > > > >> > you that despite openmeetings.apache.org web site which > >> mentions > >> > > > >> > recordings they do not work for > >> > > > >> > real conferences in 2.1.1. If you learn this by trial and > >> error, > >> > > > >> > it will take a lot of your time. > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > Release notes are not intended to blame that someone breaks > >> > > something. > >> > > > >> > This is useless anyway because one can imagine the case when > >> > > > >> > Openmeetings breaks by itself (and we > >> > > > >> > get one with Adobe auto-updater). > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > Sebastian, > >> > > > >> > The bug about recordings is not that good in description, > still > >> > the > >> > > > >> > problem exists. We do recordings several times per week, and > >> soon > >> > > > >> > locate the problem root cause more accurately. Vasily reports > >> that > >> > > > >> > generic recording session works for no longer than 20 minutes > >> > > (longer > >> > > > >> > recording sessions are rare exceptions). > >> > > > >> > a recording session online and check. I myself did several > in a > >> > row. > >> > > > >> > Taking into account the standard conference planning cycle > is 1 > >> > > hour, > >> > > > >> > I think 20 minutes is not sufficient. > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > For those who don't trust, let's try. The "try it" approach > >> > > magically > >> > > > >> > worked for multi-tabs and Irina, we > >> > > > >> > got a crash in few seconds. She seems much more convinced in > >> her > >> > > last > >> > > > >> > letter, though this is only a part of the problem. Also > >> > multi-tabbed > >> > > > >> > openmeetings somehow corrupts windows microphone settings. > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > As for memory consumption, locating a problem was more > >> difficult, > >> > > than > >> > > > >> > to believe into it now. IMHO Adobe developers have leaks in > >> codec > >> > > > >> > implementations (eg releasing memory for some video frames), > >> when > >> > we > >> > > > >> > do not free all resources explicitly (and cannot free > >> system-deep > >> > > > >> > resources). SIP integration has its own server resource leak, > >> this > >> > > one > >> > > > >> > is unrelated. > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > While I personally want having SIP among the features (and do > >> test > >> > > it > >> > > > >> > several times a day), I'm ok with dropping it. Let's just > >> reflect > >> > > this > >> > > > >> > drop in the last release notes. This is important because we > >> > > announced > >> > > > >> > SIP integration several times, and the last time was in > March. > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > I'm not +1 with shipping a release which misses reported > >> features > >> > > > >> > without a proper note, because this potentially makes > customers > >> > > > >> > unhappy. > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > -- > >> > > > >> > With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями, > >> > > > >> > Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов, > >> > > > >> > http://dataved.ru/ > >> > > > >> > +7 916 562 8095 > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > [1] Start using Apache Openmeetings today, > >> > > > >> http://openmeetings.apache.org/ > >> > > > >> > [2] Join Alexei Fedotov @linkedin, > >> > > http://ru.linkedin.com/in/dataved/ > >> > > > >> > [3] Join Alexei Fedotov @facebook, > >> > > > http://www.facebook.com/openmeetings > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 3:08 PM, [email protected] > >> > > > >> > <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > > > >> >> Hi there, > >> > > > >> >> > >> > > > >> >> regarding OPENMEETINGS-669 > >> > > > >> >> This has nothing todo with Release 2.1.1. I don't think it > >> should > >> > > be > >> > > > a > >> > > > >> note > >> > > > >> >> in the release notes. The comment in the Jira ticket *I have > >> > > retested > >> > > > >> on OM > >> > > > >> >> 3.0. Recording works without errors.* > >> > > > >> >> => This error can potentially happen with any version of > >> > > > OpenMeetings. > >> > > > >> >> I can clarify the details of how and when this can happen, > >> > however > >> > > > the > >> > > > >> root > >> > > > >> >> cause of the issue is not any new introduced functionality > of > >> > > > >> OpenMeetings > >> > > > >> >> 2.1.1 and it has _nothing_ todo with the length of the > >> > recording. I > >> > > > >> would > >> > > > >> >> be very happy if there would be a concrete steps to > reproduce > >> the > >> > > > issue > >> > > > >> in > >> > > > >> >> the Bug report. > >> > > > >> >> > >> > > > >> >> regarding > https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=885188 > >> > > > >> >> Does this bug happen also _without_ using the SIP > integration? > >> > > > >> >> Also the Bug report clearly states that the inital report > has > >> > > nothing > >> > > > >> todo > >> > > > >> >> with the second crash report in the ticket. > >> > > > >> >> I doubt that downgrading Flash Player will change the memory > >> > > > >> consumption, > >> > > > >> >> however that is also just a theory. The same theory that the > >> bug > >> > > > report > >> > > > >> >> asumes by saying *downgrading Flash solves the issue*. I > don't > >> > > think > >> > > > >> that > >> > > > >> >> there is a general request for *downgrade to 11.5 version* > of > >> > Flash > >> > > > >> Player. > >> > > > >> >> The bug report actually does not even mention which version > >> > exactly > >> > > > was > >> > > > >> >> tested and identified as buggy. So which version of the > Flash > >> > > Player > >> > > > was > >> > > > >> >> this actually? And for instance which task exactly in the > >> Flash > >> > > > Player > >> > > > >> has > >> > > > >> >> the memory leak? It could be for instance also a problem > with > >> our > >> > > > >> >> Audio/Video Codec configuration in the conference room or > >> simply > >> > a > >> > > > >> problem > >> > > > >> >> with the cam/microphone driver on that particular device. > >> > > > >> >> > >> > > > >> >> * Multi-tabbing (no other flash application should be > running > >> in > >> > > > >> different > >> > > > >> >> browsers or tabs)* > >> > > > >> >> => I don't see any problem in running two instances of > >> > OpenMeetings > >> > > > >> next to > >> > > > >> >> each other, I do that all the time for testing. > >> > > > >> >> I don't think this Release Note should be added. What Irina > >> > > mentions > >> > > > is > >> > > > >> a > >> > > > >> >> specific use-case, but even that, I do that all the time > >> without > >> > > > >> issues. So > >> > > > >> >> there might be a problem but creating now the general > >> restriction > >> > > to > >> > > > >> have > >> > > > >> >> only a single tab opened all the time and close everything > >> else > >> > > > seems a > >> > > > >> bit > >> > > > >> >> restricted. Maybe this phrase could be worded differently: > >> > > > >> >> *Running multiple Flash Applications or OpenMeetings > >> instances in > >> > > > >> multiple > >> > > > >> >> Tabs on the same device can lead to unexpected behaviour* > >> > > > >> >> > >> > > > >> >> regarding OPENMEETINGS-677, OPENMEETINGS-678 > >> > > > >> >> What is it that we mention this in the Release Notes? > >> Integration > >> > > of > >> > > > >> >> SIP-Video is not on our list of current features. It would > be > >> a > >> > > nice > >> > > > >> >> feature, but why would you add it to the Release Notes if > >> there > >> > is > >> > > an > >> > > > >> issue > >> > > > >> >> with it? It was not even announced yet that it would exist > at > >> > all? > >> > > > >> >> > >> > > > >> >> Thanks, > >> > > > >> >> Sebastian > >> > > > >> >> > >> > > > >> >> > >> > > > >> >> > >> > > > >> >> 2013/6/24 Irina Arkhipets <[email protected]> > >> > > > >> >> > >> > > > >> >>> Hi All, > >> > > > >> >>> > >> > > > >> >>> Reharding the multi-tabbing: > >> > > > >> >>> > >> > > > >> >>> Here is a link to the crash report I've received recently > >> when I > >> > > > tried > >> > > > >> to > >> > > > >> >>> sit in two different OpenMeetings rooms in the tabs of the > >> same > >> > > > >> Mozilla FF > >> > > > >> >>> browser: > >> > > > >> >>> > >> > > > >> >>> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/c448bb3d-18ef-45f6-aa66-7d8492130624 > >> > > > >> >>> > >> > > > >> >>> It looks like some known bug in the flash player: see the > >> list > >> > of > >> > > > the > >> > > > >> >>> candidates in the bug report. > >> > > > >> >>> > >> > > > >> >>> It seems like I am able to sit in one OpenMeetings room > from > >> two > >> > > > tabs > >> > > > >> of > >> > > > >> >>> the same browser as well as play youtube videos at the same > >> > > moment. > >> > > > >> >>> For me, the problems appear when I am trying to enter two > >> > > different > >> > > > >> rooms > >> > > > >> >>> in the same browser at the moment. > >> > > > >> >>> > >> > > > >> >>> Regards, > >> > > > >> >>> Irina. > >> > > > >> >>> > >> > > > >> >>> > >> > > > >> >>> On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 4:50 PM, Artyom Horuzhenko < > >> > > > [email protected] > >> > > > >> >>> >wrote: > >> > > > >> >>> > >> > > > >> >>> > Video/audio SIP integration has never been a part of > >> > > Openmeetings > >> > > > >> (as I > >> > > > >> >>> > know); > >> > > > >> >>> > Recordings didn't work before release, it's not new in > >> 2.1.1; > >> > > > >> >>> > There are troubles with recent version of Adobe Flash in > >> 2.1, > >> > > it's > >> > > > >> not > >> > > > >> >>> new > >> > > > >> >>> > too > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > > > >> >>> > 2013/6/24 Alexei Fedotov <[email protected]> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > Artyom, > >> > > > >> >>> > > I have updated the release notes with your input, and > >> > > additional > >> > > > >> input > >> > > > >> >>> > > from Irina. > >> > > > >> >>> > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > --- > >> > > > >> >>> > > Video/audio SIP integration is no longer a part of > Apache > >> > > > release. > >> > > > >> >>> > > Check free red5sip product for this integration. > >> > > > >> >>> > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > We also introduced reliability testing for this > release > >> > > (great > >> > > > >> job, > >> > > > >> >>> > > Vasily Degtyarev!). For 1 hour long conferences the > >> > following > >> > > > does > >> > > > >> not > >> > > > >> >>> > > work with Openmeetings 2.1.1: > >> > > > >> >>> > > * Recordigs > >> > > > >> >>> > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-669 > >> > > > >> >>> > > * Recent version with Adobe Flash (please downgrade to > >> 11.5 > >> > > > >> version) > >> > > > >> >>> > > https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=885188 > >> > > > >> >>> > > * Multi-tabbing (no other flash application should be > >> > running > >> > > in > >> > > > >> >>> > > different browsers or tabs) > >> > > > >> >>> > > --- > >> > > > >> >>> > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > -- > >> > > > >> >>> > > With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями, > >> > > > >> >>> > > Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов, > >> > > > >> >>> > > http://dataved.ru/ > >> > > > >> >>> > > +7 916 562 8095 > >> > > > >> >>> > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > [1] Start using Apache Openmeetings today, > >> > > > >> >>> > http://openmeetings.apache.org/ > >> > > > >> >>> > > [2] Join Alexei Fedotov @linkedin, > >> > > > >> http://ru.linkedin.com/in/dataved/ > >> > > > >> >>> > > [3] Join Alexei Fedotov @facebook, > >> > > > >> >>> http://www.facebook.com/openmeetings > >> > > > >> >>> > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 12:55 PM, Artyom Horuzhenko < > >> > > > >> >>> [email protected]> > >> > > > >> >>> > > wrote: > >> > > > >> >>> > > > Alexei, we shouldn't worry about sip integeration in > >> our > >> > > > releases > >> > > > >> >>> until > >> > > > >> >>> > > > red5sip is not an Openmeetings part. For example, > let's > >> > > > imagine > >> > > > >> if > >> > > > >> >>> > Linux > >> > > > >> >>> > > > developers say: "We can't release new kernel because > >> > > > OpenOffice > >> > > > >> has > >> > > > >> >>> > > various > >> > > > >> >>> > > > document rendering bugs". And Adobe Flash is not good > >> > > example > >> > > > >> because > >> > > > >> >>> > > > Openmeetings uses flash, but red5sip uses > Openmeetings > >> to > >> > > > provide > >> > > > >> >>> voip > >> > > > >> >>> > > > integration; all sip audio/video troubles are not > >> cause of > >> > > > >> >>> Openmeetings > >> > > > >> >>> > > > bugs. > >> > > > >> >>> > > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > > 2013/6/24 Alexei Fedotov <[email protected]> > >> > > > >> >>> > > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> I'm constantly getting enlightened by many people > that > >> > > > red4sip > >> > > > >> is > >> > > > >> >>> not > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> a part of Openmeetings. I'm well aware of that fact. > >> :-) > >> > > > Adobe > >> > > > >> Flash > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> is not a part of Openmeetings as well, and cause us > >> the > >> > > > problems > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> anyway. > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> If you program does not run on Linux, release notes > >> > should > >> > > > say, > >> > > > >> >>> "does > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> not run on Linux". IMHO, it's important to reference > >> > > > ecosystem > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> requirements in release notes. > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> -- > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями, > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов, > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> http://dataved.ru/ > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> +7 916 562 8095 > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> [1] Start using Apache Openmeetings today, > >> > > > >> >>> > > http://openmeetings.apache.org/ > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> [2] Join Alexei Fedotov @linkedin, > >> > > > >> >>> http://ru.linkedin.com/in/dataved/ > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> [3] Join Alexei Fedotov @facebook, > >> > > > >> >>> > http://www.facebook.com/openmeetings > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 11:59 AM, Alexei Fedotov > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > The previous release was an important step for us, > >> we > >> > > > >> graduated. > >> > > > >> >>> > Right > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > now we should restore original "release" meaning > by > >> > > > >> establishing > >> > > > >> >>> the > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > quality. There are two steps in establishing the > >> > quality. > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > 1. Define the quality. Vasily did a good job here. > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > 2. Improving the quality. Here we can improve > more. > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > I want release notes being correct and agreed with > >> > > > >> participants. > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > Taking Artyom comment into account, I wrote the > >> > following > >> > > > >> attempt > >> > > > >> >>> of > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > release notes. > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > The following no longer works with Openmeetings > >> 2.1.1 > >> > > (for > >> > > > 1 > >> > > > >> hour > >> > > > >> >>> > long > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > conferences) > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > * Recordigs > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > * Recent version with Adobe Flash (please > downgrade > >> to > >> > > 11.5 > >> > > > >> >>> version) > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > * Multi-tabbing (no other flash application should > >> be > >> > > > running > >> > > > >> in > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > different browsers or tabs) > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > * Video/audio SIP integration (because it requires > >> > > another > >> > > > >> program > >> > > > >> >>> > we > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > don't want to mention anymore) > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > Vasily, could you please help adding bug numbers > to > >> > each > >> > > > >> line of > >> > > > >> >>> > the > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> notes? > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > The last item intentionally has a weird > explanation, > >> > but > >> > > > >> that's > >> > > > >> >>> > what I > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > get from Artyom's letter. Artyom, could you please > >> > > correct > >> > > > the > >> > > > >> >>> last > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > item in a way you think correctly reflects the > >> state of > >> > > SIP > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > integration? > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > I think we can ship release with reflected > problems, > >> > this > >> > > > may > >> > > > >> help > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > users not to seek things they won't get. With > these > >> > > release > >> > > > >> notes > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > (improved with bug references and corrections) the > >> > > release > >> > > > >> gets my > >> > > > >> >>> > +1. > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > -- > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями, > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов, > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > http://dataved.ru/ > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > +7 916 562 8095 > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > [1] Start using Apache Openmeetings today, > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> http://openmeetings.apache.org/ > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > [2] Join Alexei Fedotov @linkedin, > >> > > > >> >>> > http://ru.linkedin.com/in/dataved/ > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > [3] Join Alexei Fedotov @facebook, > >> > > > >> >>> > > http://www.facebook.com/openmeetings > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 2:17 AM, > >> [email protected] > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >> I think Artyom is right. Red5Sip is not the scope > >> of > >> > the > >> > > > >> >>> > OpenMeetings > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >> project. > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >> Me might discuss on how we can make it the scope, > >> if > >> > we > >> > > > are > >> > > > >> able > >> > > > >> >>> to > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> create > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >> an Incubator project around Red5Sip. > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >> I think for the end user this discussion (scope > or > >> > not) > >> > > > is a > >> > > > >> >>> rather > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >> esoteric discussion as they are simply interested > >> in a > >> > > > >> working > >> > > > >> >>> > > product. > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >> However for the release, Artyom & Alexei, you are > >> both > >> > > PMC > >> > > > >> >>> members, > >> > > > >> >>> > > have > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >> you an opinion about the 2.1.1 release? > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >> Thanks, > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >> Sebastian > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >> 2013/6/24 Artyom Horuzhenko <[email protected]> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> Hello Alexei, > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> I've just changed sip integration instruction a > >> > little > >> > > by > >> > > > >> adding > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> denoise > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> and dsp_drop_silence attributes and removed > silent > >> > > > >> detection in > >> > > > >> >>> > > red5sip > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> because there were some problems with it. I > think > >> we > >> > > > >> shouldn't > >> > > > >> >>> > > include > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> any > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> information about red5sip improvement into > >> > Openmeetings > >> > > > >> release > >> > > > >> >>> > > notes > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> because red5sip is another application. > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> 2013/6/23 Alexei Fedotov < > >> [email protected]> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > Sebastian, I have tested audio SIP integration > >> by > >> > > using > >> > > > >> SIP > >> > > > >> >>> > bridge > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> for > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > my own conferences. As a result, Artyom found > >> out > >> > > that > >> > > > >> >>> disabling > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > jitter-buffer in the Asterisk configuration > >> > improves > >> > > > >> audio. > >> > > > >> >>> > > Artyom, > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > where one can find your findings on the Apache > >> web > >> > > > site? > >> > > > >> Does > >> > > > >> >>> it > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> worth > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > reflecting this in release notes? > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > -- > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями, > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов, > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > http://dataved.ru/ > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > +7 916 562 8095 > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > [1] Start using Apache Openmeetings today, > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> http://openmeetings.apache.org/ > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > [2] Join Alexei Fedotov @linkedin, > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> http://ru.linkedin.com/in/dataved/ > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > [3] Join Alexei Fedotov @facebook, > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> http://www.facebook.com/openmeetings > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 7:09 AM, > >> > > [email protected] > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > We have 3 +1 votes from PMCs. So in theory > it > >> is > >> > > > >> possible. > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > However it would be good if there is some > more > >> > > > feedback > >> > > > >> in > >> > > > >> >>> the > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> community > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > about that release. > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > Anybody else has been testing this release? > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > Sebastian > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > 2013/6/22 Maxim Solodovnik < > >> [email protected] > >> > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> I believe we should release rc1. > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> @Sebastian can you publish and announce the > >> > > release? > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> BTW I did paragliding from ~2300 meters in > >> > Turkey > >> > > > with > >> > > > >> >>> > > instructor > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> and > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > sky > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> acrobatics :) it was really amazing! :) > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> On Jun 22, 2013 3:36 AM, " > >> [email protected] > >> > " > >> > > < > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> [email protected] > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> wrote: > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > I could only find one minor issue: > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > >> > > > >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-681 > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > I think that is still good to go out as a > >> > > release. > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > +1 > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > Sebastian > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > 2013/6/22 [email protected] < > >> > > > >> [email protected]> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > I am sorry for the delay. > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > The vote is now actually outdated. > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > Shall we restart the vote process for > >> 2.1.1 > >> > ? > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > Sebastian > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > 2013/6/10 [email protected] < > >> > > > >> [email protected] > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > Release vote happens on dev list, never > >> on > >> > > > private. > >> > > > >> >>> > Please > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> vote on > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > dev, > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > as > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> the link to the dev list will be what > we > >> > > > publish > >> > > > >> as a > >> > > > >> >>> > > result > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> of > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> the > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > vote. > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> I am sorry but I can't test before > next > >> > week > >> > > > as I > >> > > > >> >>> don't > >> > > > >> >>> > > have > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> a > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> Internet > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> connection good enough while I travel > >> > abroad. > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> Thanks, > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> Sebastian > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> 2013/6/8 Maxim Solodovnik < > >> > > > [email protected]> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> Dear OpenMeetings Community, > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> I would like to start a vote about > >> > releasing > >> > > > >> Apache > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> OpenMeetings > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> 2.1.1 > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> RC1 > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> Main changes are covered in the > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> Readme: > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > > >> >>> > >> > http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openmeetings/tags/2.1.1RC1/README > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> Full Changelog: > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > > >> > > > >> > >> > http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openmeetings/tags/2.1.1RC1/CHANGELOG > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> Release artifacts: > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > >> > > > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/openmeetings/2.1.1/rc1/ > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> Tag: > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > > http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openmeetings/tags/2.1.1RC1/ > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> PGP release keys (signed using > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> C467526E): > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > > >> > > > > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/openmeetings/2.1.1/rc1/KEYS > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> Vote will be open for 72 hours. > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> [ ] +1 approve > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> [ ] +0 no opinion > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> [ ] -1 disapprove (and reason why) > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> My vote is +1. > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> -- > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> WBR > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> Maxim aka solomax > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> -- > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> Sebastian Wagner > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> http://www.webbase-design.de > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> [email protected] > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > -- > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > Sebastian Wagner > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > http://www.webbase-design.de > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > http://www.wagner-sebastian.com > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > [email protected] > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > -- > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > Sebastian Wagner > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > http://www.webbase-design.de > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > http://www.wagner-sebastian.com > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > [email protected] > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > -- > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > Sebastian Wagner > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > http://www.webbase-design.de > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > http://www.wagner-sebastian.com > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > [email protected] > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >> -- > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >> Sebastian Wagner > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >> http://www.webbase-design.de > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >> [email protected] > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > >> > > > >> >>> > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > > > >> >>> > >> > > > >> >> > >> > > > >> >> > >> > > > >> >> > >> > > > >> >> -- > >> > > > >> >> Sebastian Wagner > >> > > > >> >> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock > >> > > > >> >> http://www.webbase-design.de > >> > > > >> >> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com > >> > > > >> >> [email protected] > >> > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > -- > >> > > > > Sebastian Wagner > >> > > > > https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock > >> > > > > http://www.webbase-design.de > >> > > > > http://www.wagner-sebastian.com > >> > > > > [email protected] > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > -- > >> > > Sebastian Wagner > >> > > https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock > >> > > http://www.webbase-design.de > >> > > http://www.wagner-sebastian.com > >> > > [email protected] > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > WBR > >> > Maxim aka solomax > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > WBR > > Maxim aka solomax > > > > > > -- > WBR > Maxim aka solomax >
